Gildemeister NEF 480 Retrofit

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06 Apr 2021 10:30 #205062 by db1981
How did you connect them?

L1 (Phase) to L1 and L2C ,
N to L3 and L1C,
B2 and B3 bridged ?

Is it getting hot, without motor connected?

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06 Apr 2021 10:49 #205068 by db1981
I can't find an dedicated Hardware Enable pin, maybe the drive is directly enabled after appliyng Main Power. This could be an reason for warming up. how fast it is getting hot?

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06 Apr 2021 12:03 #205085 by anfänger
L2 ( my 2nd Phase on the first phase are already the Computer and 5 and 24V power supply the second drive is on L3 ) to L1
L2 empty
N to L3

L2 to L2C (I use two breakers one for the control loop and one for the main loop)
N to L1C


B2 and B3 are Bridged.
Motor is not connected.

DI0 (Servo enable) is low
DI1(Alarm release) is low

And within 30 sec its getting hot.

With all the VFD‘s I used fo far they never went warm so quick and never without motor load.

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06 Apr 2021 12:21 #205088 by RotarySMP
You are in Europe and have 380V or 400V 3 phase aren't you? 220V three phase is a US thing.

I can't follow what you wrote. When you talk about connecting a single phase and it getting hot, are you connecting between phase and neutral (= 230V) or are you connecting between two phase wires (= 400V).
Mark

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06 Apr 2021 12:41 #205092 by anfänger
I am connecting between a single phase an neutral (230V)
But since this is making troubles I was thinking about using a 3x400 V to 3x220V Transformer. And was wondering if one of my old ones might fit, but it turned out they don‘t.

But as it seems I am doing everything right I will give the 2nd drive a chance. Maybe there is simply something wrong with the first.

Many thanks fo all the support here!

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06 Apr 2021 12:43 #205093 by RotarySMP
Did you determine L and N based on color? Have you measured the voltage? Some electricians are either color blind, or consider color coding as more of an optional recommendation than a standard.

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06 Apr 2021 12:57 #205098 by anfänger
Since I did all the wiring the colors / Numbers should be correct.
But I will rewire to make before starting the 2n one
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06 Apr 2021 13:59 #205113 by db1981
Wiring is correct, that should not get hot.

Are you shure you have an proper "N".?

Wenn der N in der Verteilung fehlt, oder die Maschine an ner alten 4 adrigen "Bauerndrehstrom"Dose ohne N hängt. Kann es passieren das du im Schaltschrank 400V zwischen N und Phase hast, da der Sternpunkt fehlt. Mess mal ob der N am Servoregler Verbindung zum N von ner normalen Schuko Dose im Raum hat...

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06 Apr 2021 14:31 #205119 by anfänger
Many thanks, That at leat means my thinking was right, wich is a relief for me. I will check neutral if there is something funky. If not I‘ll try the second drive and there is simply something wrong with the first one. But I usually assume an error on my side first.

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06 Apr 2021 14:59 - 06 Apr 2021 15:00 #205124 by J Green
Sorry to read of the problems ----
I have used light bulbs for series resistance in the power feed ( bulbs in series for increased voltage rating and / or parallel for increased current ) when trying to energize problem electronic stuff. Works great for charging up capacitors , tracking down shorted components .and can save fuses or breakers tripping .
Hope it is a easy fix
Bob
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