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19 Mar 2013 21:53 #31598
by PCW
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One minor nit: its better to use 3.3V instead of 5V for the OPTO LED anode side
because some parallel port outputs only swing to 3.3V. This will leave the
OPTOs LEDs partially on when they should be off if their anodes are returned to 5V.
because some parallel port outputs only swing to 3.3V. This will leave the
OPTOs LEDs partially on when they should be off if their anodes are returned to 5V.
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19 Mar 2013 21:56 - 19 Mar 2013 21:57 #31599
by andypugh
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I was assuming (with no experimental evidence) that the pins would be pulled up (hmm, it feels more like "pushed up") to 5V in that case, and that they would be OK with that, as they are compatible with 5V equipment.One minor nit: its better to use 3.3V instead of 5V for the OPTO LED anode side
because some parallel port outputs only swing to 3.3V.
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19 Mar 2013 22:26 #31601
by PCW
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The data pins are push-pull and when powered by 3.3V only swing to 3.3V.
(some control outputs are open drain with a pullup but change to push-pull in EPP/ECP modes)
If you 'pull' 3.3V outputs up through the OPTO LED to 5V, you will have current
flowing in the OPTO when it should be off
Parallel port _inputs_ must be compatible with 5V signals, but parallel port outputs only guarantee TTL compatibility (0.8V maximum low level output, 2.4V minimum high level output at maximum loads)
(some control outputs are open drain with a pullup but change to push-pull in EPP/ECP modes)
If you 'pull' 3.3V outputs up through the OPTO LED to 5V, you will have current
flowing in the OPTO when it should be off
Parallel port _inputs_ must be compatible with 5V signals, but parallel port outputs only guarantee TTL compatibility (0.8V maximum low level output, 2.4V minimum high level output at maximum loads)
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19 Mar 2013 23:37 #31611
by ScottBouch
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Thanks PCW,
Perhaps the best thing here is to get my PC up and running, force the outputs and measure what happens...
Any more guidance on the interface of Parallel ports is welcomed, as this is my first venture into the unknown!
Dell haven't yet supplied any information on their Parallel Port configuration (Dell Dimension 1100 PC).
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Perhaps the best thing here is to get my PC up and running, force the outputs and measure what happens...
Any more guidance on the interface of Parallel ports is welcomed, as this is my first venture into the unknown!
Dell haven't yet supplied any information on their Parallel Port configuration (Dell Dimension 1100 PC).
Cheers, Scott.
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19 Mar 2013 23:44 #31612
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Can these modes be set in EMC2? Or is a BIOS / motherboard setting?
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some control outputs are open drain with a pullup but change to push-pull in EPP/ECP modes
Can these modes be set in EMC2? Or is a BIOS / motherboard setting?
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20 Mar 2013 00:19 #31615
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I've just found that SPP and ECP can be set by System Setup (end of sheet 22 in the attached PDF)
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20 Mar 2013 08:39 #31629
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setting does not actually set the port to that mode. You do this by writing
0x80 to the I/O port 0x402 higher than the data register, at least for the
standard port at 0x378. We do this in many of the LinuxCNC drivers
for devices that use EPP mode.
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On many Dell and other motherboards, EPP mode can be ENABLED, but the BIOSI've just found that SPP and ECP can be set by System Setup (end of sheet 22 in the attached PDF)
Cheers, Scott.
setting does not actually set the port to that mode. You do this by writing
0x80 to the I/O port 0x402 higher than the data register, at least for the
standard port at 0x378. We do this in many of the LinuxCNC drivers
for devices that use EPP mode.
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25 Mar 2013 02:58 #31811
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Thanks for all the support on Parallel ports! I have one thought, i did read in one of the manuals to save blowing up your motherboard port, using inexpensive PCI card ports is acceptable.
I know a lot of people are usine MESA boards, but they are not cheap. A quick look on ebay revealed some PCI parallel boards for less than £5.. Would one (or two to increase I/O) of these cause me a nightmare? Is it better to spend a little more?
Cheers, Scott.
I know a lot of people are usine MESA boards, but they are not cheap. A quick look on ebay revealed some PCI parallel boards for less than £5.. Would one (or two to increase I/O) of these cause me a nightmare? Is it better to spend a little more?
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25 Mar 2013 08:31 #31819
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No, you can have as many parallel port cards as will physically fit. They will work just as well as parallel port cards ever doparallel boards for less than £5.. Would one (or two to increase I/O) of these cause me a nightmare? .
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25 Mar 2013 17:02 #31831
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Awesome, Cheers!
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