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Roland TS-400 DC servo driver replacement for SHINANO KENSHI LA052-040E7N01
05 Oct 2022 15:48 #253539
by Mariusz
Hi guys.
Can someone help me to find proper driver for DC brushless servo in decent price for this motor please?
SHINANO KENSHI LA052-040E7N01
I want to convert Roland TS-400 to Linuxcnc / Mach3.
Also what TYPE of servo it is- TYPE 1 or TYPE 2 (see attachment please). The same servo is in Roland EGX 400/600 and MDX500 /650
So far I think ASC806 will be OK, but is not cheap.
Long time ago was similar topic but without clear answer.
forum.linuxcnc.org/30-cnc-machines/26520...50a-question?start=0
Can someone help me to find proper driver for DC brushless servo in decent price for this motor please?
SHINANO KENSHI LA052-040E7N01
I want to convert Roland TS-400 to Linuxcnc / Mach3.
Also what TYPE of servo it is- TYPE 1 or TYPE 2 (see attachment please). The same servo is in Roland EGX 400/600 and MDX500 /650
So far I think ASC806 will be OK, but is not cheap.
Long time ago was similar topic but without clear answer.
forum.linuxcnc.org/30-cnc-machines/26520...50a-question?start=0
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21 Oct 2022 12:16 #254664
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Roland TS-400 DC servo driver replacement for SHINANO KENSHI LA052-040E7N01
I also found this:
eu.aspina-group.com/en/contact/pdf/ASPINA_motor_catalog.pdf
Which seems to suggest that your motors are either 24V / 40W ot 75V / 40W. And I can't find any clue as to how to tell which.
It may be that the motors are specced both for star (74V) and delta (24V) wiring. What wires come out of the motor, do you see three pairs of thicker wires that have a few ohms resistance beween them?
24V 40W is a good fit for a Mesa 7i39.
I assume that you don't have the original drives, or you would be using them? Is there a DC supply for the drives, or was that part of the drives?
eu.aspina-group.com/en/contact/pdf/ASPINA_motor_catalog.pdf
Which seems to suggest that your motors are either 24V / 40W ot 75V / 40W. And I can't find any clue as to how to tell which.
It may be that the motors are specced both for star (74V) and delta (24V) wiring. What wires come out of the motor, do you see three pairs of thicker wires that have a few ohms resistance beween them?
24V 40W is a good fit for a Mesa 7i39.
I assume that you don't have the original drives, or you would be using them? Is there a DC supply for the drives, or was that part of the drives?
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23 Oct 2022 22:58 - 23 Oct 2022 23:03 #254873
by JJ48_24
Replied by JJ48_24 on topic Roland TS-400 DC servo driver replacement for SHINANO KENSHI LA052-040E7N01
While I can't speak for the ts-400, I have an MDX-650 I am trying to do something similar with. All the original electronics in the machine are completely proprietary with the drivers integrated into the main board that, on the machine I have, died. Coming out of the servos are 3 bigger wires with roughly 1-ohm impedance. Then an assortment of presumably sensor wires
Edit - Just looked at the data sheet and the 1-ohm impendence seems to suggest the motors are of the 24v delta spec
Edit - Just looked at the data sheet and the 1-ohm impendence seems to suggest the motors are of the 24v delta spec
Last edit: 23 Oct 2022 23:03 by JJ48_24.
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27 Oct 2022 11:44 #255178
by Mariusz
Replied by Mariusz on topic Roland TS-400 DC servo driver replacement for SHINANO KENSHI LA052-040E7N01
Thank you for replay. Motor is rated to:
24VDC 3phase UVW
5V Hall UVW
Encoder 5V AB
So far I connected servo to BLD-300B and works, but it can't be use for X,Y,Z axis. I want to use BLD-300B later to drive the DC48V / 100W "Roland" spindle.
Mesa 7I39 looks OK. If will be version with 3 channels, than will be perfect.
What do you think about Leadshine ELD2 ?
24VDC 3phase UVW
5V Hall UVW
Encoder 5V AB
So far I connected servo to BLD-300B and works, but it can't be use for X,Y,Z axis. I want to use BLD-300B later to drive the DC48V / 100W "Roland" spindle.
Mesa 7I39 looks OK. If will be version with 3 channels, than will be perfect.
What do you think about Leadshine ELD2 ?
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27 Oct 2022 12:21 #255180
by andypugh
Note that the 7i39 needs to be paired with a "50 pin" Mesa card, such as the 5i24/6i24 or 7i80HD[1]. The "DB25" family of cards won't work with it.
Looks like a decent option, though I couldn't find pricing.
[1]7i93 probably doesn't have enough pins. 7i90 / 7i43 would be OK if you have an EPP parallel port but the 7i43 has the same pin-shortage problem as the 7i93. 5i22 / 5i23 are expensive and no better than the 5i24/6i24
Replied by andypugh on topic Roland TS-400 DC servo driver replacement for SHINANO KENSHI LA052-040E7N01
Mesa 7I39 looks OK. If will be version with 3 channels, than will be perfect.
Note that the 7i39 needs to be paired with a "50 pin" Mesa card, such as the 5i24/6i24 or 7i80HD[1]. The "DB25" family of cards won't work with it.
What do you think about Leadshine ELD2 ?
Looks like a decent option, though I couldn't find pricing.
[1]7i93 probably doesn't have enough pins. 7i90 / 7i43 would be OK if you have an EPP parallel port but the 7i43 has the same pin-shortage problem as the 7i93. 5i22 / 5i23 are expensive and no better than the 5i24/6i24
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27 Oct 2022 13:04 - 27 Oct 2022 13:05 #255189
by Mariusz
Replied by Mariusz on topic Roland TS-400 DC servo driver replacement for SHINANO KENSHI LA052-040E7N01
Why life never is easy ?
Yesterday I tried the ACS606. I could turn servo, but it's for AC motors and encoder read over 5000 steps error. ACS606 cost ~$80, ELD2 ~$130.
I asked LG Motion Ltd for the cheapest solution. Maybe they will be able to help.
Yesterday I tried the ACS606. I could turn servo, but it's for AC motors and encoder read over 5000 steps error. ACS606 cost ~$80, ELD2 ~$130.
I asked LG Motion Ltd for the cheapest solution. Maybe they will be able to help.
Last edit: 27 Oct 2022 13:05 by Mariusz.
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27 Oct 2022 19:33 #255229
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If you have some spare time, have a look with what i am dealing currently, might make you feel much better!
forum.linuxcnc.org/show-your-stuff/32784...15-retrofit?start=40
I skipped a few posts, it is to long.
Replied by tommylight on topic Roland TS-400 DC servo driver replacement for SHINANO KENSHI LA052-040E7N01
Wana trade places?Why life never is easy ?
If you have some spare time, have a look with what i am dealing currently, might make you feel much better!
forum.linuxcnc.org/show-your-stuff/32784...15-retrofit?start=40
I skipped a few posts, it is to long.
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