Brother TC-225 / TC-229 adventure!

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9 years 2 months ago - 9 years 2 months ago #98210 by ihavenofish
Replied by ihavenofish on topic Brother TC-225 / TC-229 adventure!
old cable has no shield. it got a big ground wire through it. but no shield.

the ground is grounded.
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9 years 2 months ago #98211 by ihavenofish
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Todd Zuercher wrote:
If the old control had jerk limiting, I don't think you will be able to use acceleration rates as high as the old control used. (My guess, probably about 1/2-2/3 as much.)


this may be true. but ive lowered the acceleration before, and it seemed to make little or no difference.

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9 years 2 months ago #98261 by ihavenofish
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ok, I'm out of ideas. shortening the cables has definitely helped some, but I still cant get the tuning to be 'damped" with no overshoot. this is at pretty much all speeds, and all accelerations. I went to 0.01G al the way to 1G (quite scary). the amount of overshoot changes with acceleration, for example from .001" down to .0005", but its still there and still resonating and clunking. I even played with the gain on the drive, going to minimum, and raising it above what it was.

maybe its just the lack of jerk control, but I don't see that.

I put the old control back online and it is, with no question, vastly smoother. its not perfection, you still feel the odd lump at low speeds (2ipm) but theres no comparison. so the drives and motors obviously work well enough.

I was thinking of figuring out how to make an Arduino drive one axis "blind" but I'm not sure what that would tell me that I don't already know (as in, we already know the motors can be smooth).

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9 years 2 months ago #98276 by andypugh
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This thread has got very long.
Can you quickly summarise what hardware you are using and whether the drives are running velocity-mode or toque-mode, and with what feedback type (or types)

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9 years 2 months ago - 9 years 2 months ago #98295 by PCW
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OK some things here really make no sense

Shortening the cables should make no real difference, especially in dynamic performance
I can see that there might possible be more hum with longer cables, but that does not seem to be
the issue.
This may indicate some kind of ground loop. This can be an problem with drives that do not have
differential inputs. There are many things that can be done to eliminate ground loops if that is the issue.

Can you plot this overshoot/oscillation at .01 G with P very low (say 1) FF1 properly set and I/D/FF2 all 0

Have you checked the 7I77s 5V supply?

Also can you post your hal/ini files here?
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9 years 2 months ago #98299 by ihavenofish
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velocity mode
1024 line encoder
410w 4000rpm ac servo
5mm pitch screw
mesa 7i77

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