Padovani Labor-e 275 lathe retrofit
29 Jun 2019 17:33 - 29 Jun 2019 17:35 #138182
by radom
Padovani Labor-e 275 lathe retrofit was created by radom
Hello everyone,
I'm new to Linuxcnc and cnc in general so I hope you could help me with my first retrofit
I bought this lathe with a broken Fagor 8050 controller, its got Simodrive 611 modules with siemens motors, analog control +/-10V and they seems to work as I tested them with simple 1.2V battery
I bought mesa cards 5i25 and 7i77 and started wiring it. I don't have wiring diagram for this machine but everything looks quite simple
I wanted to reuse existing cables and I run into first problem, differential input +/-10V for both X,Z axis and spindle is in one 6-wire (3 pair) shielded cable, where to I connect this shield? Or do I need to change to separate cables with separate shields for each input?
I'm new to Linuxcnc and cnc in general so I hope you could help me with my first retrofit
I bought this lathe with a broken Fagor 8050 controller, its got Simodrive 611 modules with siemens motors, analog control +/-10V and they seems to work as I tested them with simple 1.2V battery
I bought mesa cards 5i25 and 7i77 and started wiring it. I don't have wiring diagram for this machine but everything looks quite simple
I wanted to reuse existing cables and I run into first problem, differential input +/-10V for both X,Z axis and spindle is in one 6-wire (3 pair) shielded cable, where to I connect this shield? Or do I need to change to separate cables with separate shields for each input?
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29 Jun 2019 17:54 #138184
by pl7i92
Replied by pl7i92 on topic Padovani Labor-e 275 lathe retrofit
quite nice projekt
the shield is always against mashine Gnd
you only need to BRIDGE the 24V Gnd
but i think you use the 611 ER 24V out to the 7i77
yu shoudt folow the
SERVO tuning example at gnipsel.com
the shield is always against mashine Gnd
you only need to BRIDGE the 24V Gnd
but i think you use the 611 ER 24V out to the 7i77
yu shoudt folow the
SERVO tuning example at gnipsel.com
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29 Jun 2019 20:47 #138195
by tommylight
Replied by tommylight on topic Padovani Labor-e 275 lathe retrofit
Use a DVM and check for continuity of that shield to the drives or machine gnd, if it is wired to any of them do also check the negative side of the power supply that the 7i77 is going to be powered by, if all of them are wired together it will not matter much if you wire them anywhere or not, but you could wire them to the gnd on the Mesa board.
Almost always I leave one side hanging, not connected to anything to prevent ground loops.
Almost always I leave one side hanging, not connected to anything to prevent ground loops.
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29 Jun 2019 21:42 #138198
by radom
shield was connected only at the old controller end, so now it's not connected to anything
do I wire it to TB1 GND pin or one of TB5 GND pins or somewhere else?
regards
Replied by radom on topic Padovani Labor-e 275 lathe retrofit
Use a DVM and check for continuity of that shield to the drives or machine gnd, if it is wired to any of them do also check the negative side of the power supply that the 7i77 is going to be powered by, if all of them are wired together it will not matter much if you wire them anywhere or not, but you could wire them to the gnd on the Mesa board.
Almost always I leave one side hanging, not connected to anything to prevent ground loops.
shield was connected only at the old controller end, so now it's not connected to anything
do I wire it to TB1 GND pin or one of TB5 GND pins or somewhere else?
regards
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29 Jun 2019 22:03 #138201
by PCW
Replied by PCW on topic Padovani Labor-e 275 lathe retrofit
for the analog signals:
TB5 7I77 AOUT --> DRIVE IN+
TB5 7I77 AGND --> DRIVE IN- and shield
(shield should be terminated only at 7i77 end)
TB5 7I77 AOUT --> DRIVE IN+
TB5 7I77 AGND --> DRIVE IN- and shield
(shield should be terminated only at 7i77 end)
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27 Jul 2019 15:39 #140752
by radom
Replied by radom on topic Padovani Labor-e 275 lathe retrofit
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28 Jul 2019 21:40 #140845
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Padovani Labor-e 275 lathe retrofit
That's a bit of monster!
Is that a D1-nose on the outboard end of the spindle?
Is that a D1-nose on the outboard end of the spindle?
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29 Jul 2019 17:02 - 29 Jul 2019 17:03 #140896
by radom
Replied by radom on topic Padovani Labor-e 275 lathe retrofit
yes, D1-8 on both ends, 108mm spindle bore
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22 Nov 2019 18:53 - 22 Nov 2019 19:00 #150958
by Japantuning
Replied by Japantuning on topic Padovani Labor-e 275 lathe retrofit
Hello Mr Radom I have a simular Padavoni cnc (Labor E200). I cannot get hold of the original ore simular parameter files for the Sinumerik 805 controller.
So i have 2 questions here:
Do you have backup of parameters from your machine? if so, any chance we can buy them from you?
I could use them and adapt them to our machine.
Option nr 2: Retrofit this machine with Linuxcnc. if so, is there any chanse you can provide me with setup files/parameters used here?
Best Regards,
Ronny
So i have 2 questions here:
Do you have backup of parameters from your machine? if so, any chance we can buy them from you?
I could use them and adapt them to our machine.
Option nr 2: Retrofit this machine with Linuxcnc. if so, is there any chanse you can provide me with setup files/parameters used here?
Best Regards,
Ronny
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07 Sep 2020 18:47 #181166
by Masiwood123
Replied by Masiwood123 on topic Padovani Labor-e 275 lathe retrofit
Hi gays i also have labor e255 padovani, i would like if you can explain how to wire simodrive 611 to mesa 7i77? what wire is going from output to driver. thank you in advance
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