NEMA 23, weird velocity results.. need help
22 Nov 2013 06:06 - 22 Nov 2013 06:08 #41094
by fannlow
Replied by fannlow on topic NEMA 23, weird velocity results.. need help
tried using one of those calculators to help me out, but it doesn't seems to change anything, as I entered my figures into the yellow box?
i opened it up in excel 2013...
from wiki, StepTimingCalculatorPlus.ods?
wiki.linuxcnc.org/uploads/StepTimingCalculatorPlus.ods
any suggestions?
i opened it up in excel 2013...
from wiki, StepTimingCalculatorPlus.ods?
wiki.linuxcnc.org/uploads/StepTimingCalculatorPlus.ods
any suggestions?
Last edit: 22 Nov 2013 06:08 by fannlow.
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22 Nov 2013 06:14 #41095
by fannlow
yup, i do understand that, just wanted to learn how to calculate or use the excel calculator to help me with my future needs
so I dont need to keep guessing what works and what doesn't?
at least I have a guide in my mind and knows what will work until where
am upgrading the PSU and my leadscrew, PSU will be here today, and leadscrew next week.
29deg leadscrew, i think will be better than my current...
Replied by fannlow on topic NEMA 23, weird velocity results.. need help
If the step pulses make the driver make a step, then that is all that matters, and you won't get any more speed or performance from changing the values.
Your low speed is due to high inductance motors and not-very-high voltage.
yup, i do understand that, just wanted to learn how to calculate or use the excel calculator to help me with my future needs
so I dont need to keep guessing what works and what doesn't?
at least I have a guide in my mind and knows what will work until where
am upgrading the PSU and my leadscrew, PSU will be here today, and leadscrew next week.
29deg leadscrew, i think will be better than my current...
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22 Nov 2013 06:15 #41096
by andypugh
There is no magic in the calculator.
V = L dI/dt.
For 4.2A the delta-I for each full step is 8.4A. L = 6.8mH. V = 26V. That means that delta-t = 1.6mS.
With 100 full steps per rev, that comes out to about 400rpm. (the motors are 200 steps per turn, but I there are two phases)
This is just very rough, really you need to consider many more factors (and I think it might actually be 50 phase-reversals per rev, actually).
Replied by andypugh on topic NEMA 23, weird velocity results.. need help
tried using one of those calculators to help me out, but it doesn't seems to change anything, as I entered my figures into the yellow box?
There is no magic in the calculator.
V = L dI/dt.
For 4.2A the delta-I for each full step is 8.4A. L = 6.8mH. V = 26V. That means that delta-t = 1.6mS.
With 100 full steps per rev, that comes out to about 400rpm. (the motors are 200 steps per turn, but I there are two phases)
This is just very rough, really you need to consider many more factors (and I think it might actually be 50 phase-reversals per rev, actually).
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22 Nov 2013 06:22 #41097
by fannlow
I understand where you get 4.2A, so full step is 8.4A.
L =6.8mH (inductant), and V = 26V (shouldn't it be 36.6V from my PSU?) confused here..
dT = 1.6mS (this is from your above eq.)
yea, the motors are 200 steps per turm @ H/L phrases as in the diagram.
well, I don't really know how to read that diagram and what does the freq 500KHz do?
also the 2C? a switch from L to H (low to high) i assume? the 2C = pulse A + pulse B? (1us + 1us?)
in respect to linuxCnC:
StepLen
StepSpace
DirHold
DirSetup
where do the numbers in the diagram go to?
or how do they get their numbers?
thanks
Replied by fannlow on topic NEMA 23, weird velocity results.. need help
tried using one of those calculators to help me out, but it doesn't seems to change anything, as I entered my figures into the yellow box?
There is no magic in the calculator.
V = L dI/dt.
For 4.2A the delta-I for each full step is 8.4A. L = 6.8mH. V = 26V. That means that delta-t = 1.6mS.
With 100 full steps per rev, that comes out to about 400rpm. (the motors are 200 steps per turn, but I there are two phases)
This is just very rough, really you need to consider many more factors (and I think it might actually be 50 phase-reversals per rev, actually).
I understand where you get 4.2A, so full step is 8.4A.
L =6.8mH (inductant), and V = 26V (shouldn't it be 36.6V from my PSU?) confused here..
dT = 1.6mS (this is from your above eq.)
yea, the motors are 200 steps per turm @ H/L phrases as in the diagram.
well, I don't really know how to read that diagram and what does the freq 500KHz do?
also the 2C? a switch from L to H (low to high) i assume? the 2C = pulse A + pulse B? (1us + 1us?)
in respect to linuxCnC:
StepLen
StepSpace
DirHold
DirSetup
where do the numbers in the diagram go to?
or how do they get their numbers?
thanks
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22 Nov 2013 07:00 #41099
by fannlow
Replied by fannlow on topic NEMA 23, weird velocity results.. need help
Stepper calculator for sharing
calculator.josefprusa.cz/
belt drive, linear screw drive, etc...
i'm unsure how to share this into the forum, where users can check against what they have?
so I entered it here, since I don't see any folder out there for this?
and this one is good too!
www.daycounter.com/Calculators/Stepper-Motor-Calculator.phtml
thanks
calculator.josefprusa.cz/
belt drive, linear screw drive, etc...
i'm unsure how to share this into the forum, where users can check against what they have?
so I entered it here, since I don't see any folder out there for this?
and this one is good too!
www.daycounter.com/Calculators/Stepper-Motor-Calculator.phtml
thanks
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