5i25 + 7i74 + 7i71 communication errors

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10 Jun 2016 14:17 - 10 Jun 2016 14:19 #75774 by terkaa
Yes but load is under 60mA. And datasheet mention that with loads under 60mA flyback diodes are not needed. How do I get complete error posted here?
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10 Jun 2016 14:26 #75775 by PCW
if this is RTAI, the error messages are logged to the kernel log (viewed with dmesg)
If this is Preempt-RT, the messages are logged to the terminal (start LinuxCNC from a terminal window)

The 7I71 driving a 36 mA coil is fine without flyback diodes _BUT_ if the relay contacts
switch an inductive load, they must have arc suppressors

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10 Jun 2016 14:30 - 10 Jun 2016 14:35 #75776 by terkaa
Hi,

These do drive 110VAC hydraulic valve solenoids. And currently no Arc Supressors. Do you know where to get arc suppressor modules with about 10-20 inputs?
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10 Jun 2016 14:49 - 10 Jun 2016 15:43 #75777 by PCW
I dont recall seeing multiple channel units, the ones I'm familiar with are like this:

www.alliedelec.com/red-lion-controls-snub0000/70030263/

or this:

www.mouser.com/new/cde/CDE-Quencharc-snubber-networks/

Edit: the "Red Lion" part is actually this:

www.onlinecomponents.com/okaya-electric-xeb0471.html?p=12040652
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10 Jun 2016 15:56 #75778 by terkaa
Old control that was removed from this machine had few 10 input units(big black boxes with screw terminals). I still have those boxes somewhere I have to check if those can be reused.

Tero

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10 Jun 2016 19:29 #75783 by terkaa
Hi,

Ok good news is I found those modules. Bad news is that these are mostly broken ones. So I will toss them into trash and forget. Now I have resistor size it is 225 ohms(5W). I still need to find out cap size before I can order new ones. Anyone know how to find that out?

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11 Jun 2016 15:30 #75820 by PCW
You could short out one of the resistors and use a multimeter with capacitance range
(225 Ohms is low enough that it might read fairly close without shorting the resistor)
or use a RLC bridge if you have access to one

If you are adventuresome and have a multimeter with a AC mA range you can measure like this

120VAC L1 --> suppressor common --> suppressor(1) --> multimeter AC mA -->120VAC Neutral
and calculate the capacitance from the AC current

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15 Jun 2016 08:22 - 15 Jun 2016 17:57 #76046 by terkaa
Ok

Value was measured with LCR and it was 2,0 uF I could not locate arc supressors with 2uF/220Ohms. So I ended up with these from Farnell. I required a plastic module with screw holes for nice installation and long wires. After installing these communication errors seem gone :) Thank you for help.

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15 Jun 2016 14:35 #76082 by PCW
Not only will the Arc suppressors reduce radiated EMI,
they will also make your relay contacts last much longer.

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