making my machine distance work accuratly

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13 Feb 2013 17:54 #30006 by revo
i will get this distance in the morning!

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13 Feb 2013 19:03 #30018 by alan_3301
I'm not sure if you missed what I posted, but you dont have to measure anything. It has all been figured out for you.
I have the exact same setup from the same company, but I have the 2:1 belt ratio on mine.

If you want to enter it into stepconf
then enter:
Motor steps per revolution - 200
Driver microstepping - 10
pulley teeth - 1 : 3.2
leadscrew pitch - .31831

.31831 is 1/pi so that makes sense to you.

The pinion has a 1" pitch circle, so each rev of the pinion is 3.14159"
with a 3.2:1 belt ratio: 3.14159" / 3.2 = 0.98174" per motor revolution
200 steps per rev / 0.98174inches per rev = 203.718 steps per inch
with 10x microstepping thats 2037.18 steps per inch.

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13 Feb 2013 20:34 #30020 by andypugh

I'm not sure if you missed what I posted,

I think I had.

If you want to enter it into stepconf
then enter:
Motor steps per revolution - 200
Driver microstepping - 10
pulley teeth - 1 : 3.2
leadscrew pitch - .31831

To set the machine up in metric then all that needs to change is the "leadscrew pitch", which becomes 79.796mm

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14 Feb 2013 01:33 #30032 by revo
ok!

thanks, i would have not been able to understand this. this make sense once you know.

will set it up over lunch today. stocked!

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04 Mar 2013 11:01 - 04 Mar 2013 11:05 #30818 by revo
i am tryinng hard to setup a new board. i failed on the pmdx126, was a friend board and now i am doing mine.

i am doing what it said on this and my motors just run so bad and distance is still affected.

so here is the setup.
The R&P system is based on a pinion with a 1" pitch circle. The total linear distance traveled per revolution of the pinion is thus 3.14159". With the Nema 34 R&P 2:1 reduction, this means that the distance traveled per motor revolution is 3.14159 / 2, or 1.5708". If you have a stepper with 200 steps per revolution, this means you have 200 / 1.5708" = 127.324 steps per inch, or 0.007854" per step. With 10x microstepping (like in the G201x or G203V), you would have 1273.2 steps per inch, or 0.0007854" per step.

i want my setup in mmas i dont use inches whatsoever but i can convert later.

so for linux cnc in the configuartion wizard they ask for:
motor steps per revolution: 200
driver micco stepping :10
pulley teeth : 2:1 or 1:2 ??
leadscrew pitch: ?? REV per IN


thanks,
for some reason i can not get to 1273.2 step per inch
Last edit: 04 Mar 2013 11:05 by revo.

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04 Mar 2013 19:27 #30827 by BigJohnT
Just enter 1's in every box except leadscrew pitch and put the scale you desire in there.

John

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05 Mar 2013 02:51 #30872 by revo
enter 1?

doesnt make sense. i cant get this right,

please leaborate. what is 1 gonna do? what do i write in the leadscrew pitch.

sorry guy, i really need someone to do it for me because seem like whatever i put in those boxes with all the info i put in previous post , my motors are moving the wrong distance and they are moving slow and rough. in the speed i tried for 300 to 10000 and nothing goes. in the velocity i tried from 1.5 to 150 and same.

is it possible that my board is not compatibe with linux cnc?
here is the board thati have.

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05 Mar 2013 03:10 #30873 by andypugh

my motors are moving the wrong distance and they are moving slow and rough.

in the is it possible that my board is not compatibe with linux cnc?


It is very unlikely that the BoB could be incompatible with LinuxCNC when it is sold to work with Mach.

What stepper drivers are you using? What values do you have for step-length and step-space?
You need to get the motors running properly before worrying about the distance accuracy.
It is probably worth trying inverting the step signals in stepconf (tick the "invert" box). It might help.

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05 Mar 2013 03:19 #30874 by revo
sorry my ignorance but i still dont understand bigJohn comment, to put 1 in every box? is the stepconf wizard the most important part to mae the machine run?

those numbers have to be right dont they ?
i mean if i put the leadsrew with the wrong value the machine will never run properly ?

my motors are nema 34 from cnc router parts, every thing is from them.

what is confusing me is that on the bottom of the page (stepconf wizard, axis configuration) it say AXIS SCALE, on the CNCRP site i should get to 1273.2 step per inches, but i cant never get to that number.

if i cant get the step per inches right, the machien will never move at the right distance, am i wrong there?

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05 Mar 2013 03:24 - 05 Mar 2013 03:25 #30875 by andypugh

those numbers have to be right dont they ?

No, not really. They just have to give the right answer. Stepconf just multiplies them together and comes up with a single number. (that is the AXIS_SCALE number).
If you put a 1 in every box and then 1273.2 in the last box, then the answer should come out at 1273.2.

However, you want mm, so you could use 50.126

(that's the same number as steps per mm)
Last edit: 05 Mar 2013 03:25 by andypugh.

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