Maximum Velocity Setting Locations?
10 May 2013 23:34 #33892
by Paul
Maximum Velocity Setting Locations? was created by Paul
I used to have success changing my table's maximum velocity in the .ini file. Both machine and per axis. Now, configuring a new setup, I find my maximum velocity is now much higher than the ini's settings and making changes in the ini file doesn't help.
Is there a place in the HAL files that would override the ini settings? What should I look for?
Thanks in advance.
Paul
Is there a place in the HAL files that would override the ini settings? What should I look for?
Thanks in advance.
Paul
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11 May 2013 00:36 #33894
by Mike_Eitel
Replied by Mike_Eitel on topic Maximum Velocity Setting Locations?
Hi Paul
I have in this very moment similar problems:
I'm in the Phase of optization. Every thing is fine beside the acceleration oft the A axis.
It stays too slow, also when I use high value as here 6000 units...
Very slow like 6 works..
Anybody any idea?
THX Mike
I have in this very moment similar problems:
I'm in the Phase of optization. Every thing is fine beside the acceleration oft the A axis.
It stays too slow, also when I use high value as here 6000 units...
Very slow like 6 works..
Anybody any idea?
THX Mike
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11 May 2013 15:08 #33919
by ArcEye
No the hal file uses the settings from the .ini file
as in
setp stepgen.0.maxaccel [AXIS_0]STEPGEN_MAXACCEL
Without your files to look at can only guess.
If you have edited by hand, are you aware that velocity settings are in units per second in the .ini file?
You are used to seeing velocities in units per minute in the display and if you use those they will be 60 times to high!
If that does not help, zip your whole config directory and attach it to a post
regards
Replied by ArcEye on topic Maximum Velocity Setting Locations?
I used to have success changing my table's maximum velocity in the .ini file. Both machine and per axis. Now, configuring a new setup, I find my maximum velocity is now much higher than the ini's settings and making changes in the ini file doesn't help.
Is there a place in the HAL files that would override the ini settings? What should I look for?
No the hal file uses the settings from the .ini file
as in
setp stepgen.0.maxaccel [AXIS_0]STEPGEN_MAXACCEL
Without your files to look at can only guess.
If you have edited by hand, are you aware that velocity settings are in units per second in the .ini file?
You are used to seeing velocities in units per minute in the display and if you use those they will be 60 times to high!
If that does not help, zip your whole config directory and attach it to a post
regards
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11 May 2013 17:23 #33923
by Paul
Thanks for the reply ArcEye. Normally the unit in time is something I would miss, but in this case, I became aware of that earlier in life
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Basically, I am now attempting to modify the THC300 example files to fit my machine. It also seems to be present when working with example files for the Mesa THC parallel port files, too. My maximum velocity of 15,000mm/m (250mm/s, correct?) is now displayed, and possibly ran, at 24,000mm/m when I start LinuxCNC. I can adjust the slide bar back down to 15,000, but when I turn on the torch, the Z axis cycles down through it's range at a rate much higher than the axis maximum setting of 2400mm/m and also more than the 15,000. Enough to miss steps. I edited the base rate to an exceptable value for my setup, also. Come to think of it, the Axis maximum velocity slide bar settings are not used when I hold down the shift key and jog around the table - They are too fast, too.
I will have to upload my files next time I get back to the table. Thanks again.
Replied by Paul on topic Maximum Velocity Setting Locations?
If you have edited by hand, are you aware that velocity settings are in units per second in the .ini file?
You are used to seeing velocities in units per minute in the display and if you use those they will be 60 times to high!
Thanks for the reply ArcEye. Normally the unit in time is something I would miss, but in this case, I became aware of that earlier in life
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Basically, I am now attempting to modify the THC300 example files to fit my machine. It also seems to be present when working with example files for the Mesa THC parallel port files, too. My maximum velocity of 15,000mm/m (250mm/s, correct?) is now displayed, and possibly ran, at 24,000mm/m when I start LinuxCNC. I can adjust the slide bar back down to 15,000, but when I turn on the torch, the Z axis cycles down through it's range at a rate much higher than the axis maximum setting of 2400mm/m and also more than the 15,000. Enough to miss steps. I edited the base rate to an exceptable value for my setup, also. Come to think of it, the Axis maximum velocity slide bar settings are not used when I hold down the shift key and jog around the table - They are too fast, too.
I will have to upload my files next time I get back to the table. Thanks again.
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11 May 2013 18:36 #33925
by BigJohnT
Replied by BigJohnT on topic Maximum Velocity Setting Locations?
The THC300 configuration is complicated and buggy and I would not recommend it for a plasma machine.
What kind of THC do you have?
John
What kind of THC do you have?
John
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11 May 2013 18:44 #33926
by Paul
Replied by Paul on topic Maximum Velocity Setting Locations?
Hi John. Thanks for your time. That's kind of good to hear that it's buggy. But only for confirmation. I'm not having alot of luck with the Mesa THCAD, so I thought I would look into the Proma THC up/down-type with my parallel port setup. I thought I pretty much had everything ready except the velocity settings and I have yet to figure out why (or how to control) the Z axis has to run down to it's low limit settings upon firing the torch. I have a touch-off routine (probably based on your work) that finds the top of the material just fine. I'm just looking to keep the torch tip at a reasonable distance during cutting.
Thanks
Paul
Thanks
Paul
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11 May 2013 18:46 #33927
by BigJohnT
Replied by BigJohnT on topic Maximum Velocity Setting Locations?
What kind of problems are you having with the THCAD card?
Are you using the thc component with the THCAD card?
John
Are you using the thc component with the THCAD card?
John
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12 May 2013 19:49 #33946
by Paul
Replied by Paul on topic Maximum Velocity Setting Locations?
John,
The biggest problem here is that I don't know what I am doing. There, I said it. I have your example files for the parallel port and with the help of you, coolmo32, Andy, PCW, emcPT and I am sure others, I have a setup to test. When I check the thc-velocity-in, it doesn't indicate a stable value when I change the input voltage to simulate different torch gaps. I mentioned this and was asked a couple of questions that I still cannot answer even after reading through the integrator manual.
So, instead of continually bothering you guys, I thought I may get away with plan B, an up/down thc setup, but as we can see, the "bothering" part has not let up.
Should I, instead, look at your thcud.comp file for the Proma thc?
Paul
The biggest problem here is that I don't know what I am doing. There, I said it. I have your example files for the parallel port and with the help of you, coolmo32, Andy, PCW, emcPT and I am sure others, I have a setup to test. When I check the thc-velocity-in, it doesn't indicate a stable value when I change the input voltage to simulate different torch gaps. I mentioned this and was asked a couple of questions that I still cannot answer even after reading through the integrator manual.
So, instead of continually bothering you guys, I thought I may get away with plan B, an up/down thc setup, but as we can see, the "bothering" part has not let up.
Should I, instead, look at your thcud.comp file for the Proma thc?
Paul
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12 May 2013 23:03 #33956
by BigJohnT
Replied by BigJohnT on topic Maximum Velocity Setting Locations?
The velocity will not be stable and depending on the jumper setting vary more or less.
If you can't get the thc comp to work purchasing another thc device does not seem to fix the original problem.
You might have the correction velocity way too high...
thc.correction-vel float rw
The amount of change in user units per period to move Z to correct
John
If you can't get the thc comp to work purchasing another thc device does not seem to fix the original problem.
You might have the correction velocity way too high...
thc.correction-vel float rw
The amount of change in user units per period to move Z to correct
John
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16 May 2013 19:35 #34187
by Paul
Replied by Paul on topic Maximum Velocity Setting Locations?
I am wondering if I understand this correctly using the thcud.comp with my parallel port/C-10 setup.
In my main hal file, I include these entries:
loadrt thcud
net thc.torch-up <= parport.0.pin-12-in
net thc.torch-down <= parport.0.pin-13-in
net motion.spindle-on => parport.0.pin-16-out
net thc.arc-ok <= motion.digital-in-00 <= parport.0.pin-15-in
net thc.requested-vel <= motion.requested-vel
net thc.current-vel <= motion.current-vel
And then, in my plasma.xml file, I include:
<checkbutton>
<text>"THC Enable"</text>
<halpin>"thc-enable"</halpin>
</checkbutton>
<spinbox>
<width>"5"</width>
<halpin>"vel-tol"</halpin>
<min_>.01</min_>
<max_>1</max_>
<resolution>0.01</resolution>
<initval>0.2</initval>
<format>"1.2f"</format>
<font>("Arial",10)</font>
</spinbox>
And include in my postgui.hal file:
net thc-enable thcud.enable <= pyvcp.thc-enable
Now, if THC is enabled (checked on), torch is on, arc ok, x and y at speed, will an up/down THC be able to control my z axis via pin 12 for up and pin 13 for down based on the thc's voltage settings?
I hope this is close. Any direction greatly appreciated.
Paul
In my main hal file, I include these entries:
loadrt thcud
net thc.torch-up <= parport.0.pin-12-in
net thc.torch-down <= parport.0.pin-13-in
net motion.spindle-on => parport.0.pin-16-out
net thc.arc-ok <= motion.digital-in-00 <= parport.0.pin-15-in
net thc.requested-vel <= motion.requested-vel
net thc.current-vel <= motion.current-vel
And then, in my plasma.xml file, I include:
<checkbutton>
<text>"THC Enable"</text>
<halpin>"thc-enable"</halpin>
</checkbutton>
<spinbox>
<width>"5"</width>
<halpin>"vel-tol"</halpin>
<min_>.01</min_>
<max_>1</max_>
<resolution>0.01</resolution>
<initval>0.2</initval>
<format>"1.2f"</format>
<font>("Arial",10)</font>
</spinbox>
And include in my postgui.hal file:
net thc-enable thcud.enable <= pyvcp.thc-enable
Now, if THC is enabled (checked on), torch is on, arc ok, x and y at speed, will an up/down THC be able to control my z axis via pin 12 for up and pin 13 for down based on the thc's voltage settings?
I hope this is close. Any direction greatly appreciated.
Paul
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