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yea so creating another new config is just working for some reason... that is weird

The attach didnt work so here is the copy paste

Error report created by /usr/lib/tcltk/linuxcnc/show_errors.tcl:

Print file information:
RUN_IN_PLACE=no
LINUXCNC_DIR=
LINUXCNC_BIN_DIR=/usr/bin
LINUXCNC_TCL_DIR=/usr/lib/tcltk/linuxcnc
LINUXCNC_SCRIPT_DIR=
LINUXCNC_RTLIB_DIR=/usr/lib/linuxcnc/modules
LINUXCNC_CONFIG_DIR=
LINUXCNC_LANG_DIR=/usr/lib/tcltk/linuxcnc/msgs
INIVAR=inivar
HALCMD=halcmd
LINUXCNC_EMCSH=/usr/bin/wish8.6
LINUXCNC - 2.9.4
Machine configuration directory is '/home/coopedup/linuxcnc/configs/MH800E'
Machine configuration file is 'MH800E.ini'
INIFILE=/home/coopedup/linuxcnc/configs/MH800E/MH800E.ini
VERSION=1.1
PARAMETER_FILE=linuxcnc.var
TPMOD=
HOMEMOD=
TASK=milltask
HALUI=halui
DISPLAY=gmoccapy
COORDINATES=XYZ
KINEMATICS=trivkins coordinates=XYZ
Starting LinuxCNC...
Starting LinuxCNC server program: linuxcncsvr
Loading Real Time OS, RTAPI, and HAL_LIB modules
Starting LinuxCNC IO program: io
Starting HAL User Interface program: halui
linuxcnc TPMOD=tpmod HOMEMOD=homemod EMCMOT=motmod
Found file(REL): ./MH800E.hal
Shutting down and cleaning up LinuxCNC...
Running HAL shutdown script
hm2: loading Mesa HostMot2 driver version 0.15
hm2_pci: loading Mesa AnyIO HostMot2 driver version 0.7
hm2_pci: discovered 5i25t at 0000:04:06.0
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: Low Level init 0.15
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: Smart Serial Firmware Version 43
Board hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.1 Hardware Mode 0 = standard
Board hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.1 Software Mode 0 = analogout_enables
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: 34 I/O Pins used:
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 000 (P3-01): IOPort
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 001 (P3-14): IOPort
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 002 (P3-02): IOPort
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 003 (P3-15): Smart Serial Interface #0, pin tx1 (Output)
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 004 (P3-03): Smart Serial Interface #0, pin rx1 (Input)
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 005 (P3-16): IOPort
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 006 (P3-04): IOPort
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 007 (P3-17): Muxed Encoder Select #0, pin Mux Select 0 (Output)
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 008 (P3-05): Muxed Encoder #0, pin Muxed A (Input)
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 009 (P3-06): Muxed Encoder #0, pin Muxed B (Input)
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 010 (P3-07): Muxed Encoder #0, pin Muxed Index (Input)
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 011 (P3-08): Muxed Encoder #1, pin Muxed A (Input)
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 012 (P3-09): Muxed Encoder #1, pin Muxed B (Input)
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 013 (P3-10): Muxed Encoder #1, pin Muxed Index (Input)
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 014 (P3-11): Muxed Encoder #2, pin Muxed A (Input)
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 015 (P3-12): Muxed Encoder #2, pin Muxed B (Input)
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 016 (P3-13): Muxed Encoder #2, pin Muxed Index (Input)
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 017 (P2-01): IOPort
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 018 (P2-14): IOPort
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 019 (P2-02): IOPort
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 020 (P2-15): IOPort
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 021 (P2-03): IOPort
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 022 (P2-16): IOPort
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 023 (P2-04): IOPort
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 024 (P2-17): IOPort
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 025 (P2-05): IOPort
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 026 (P2-06): IOPort
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 027 (P2-07): IOPort
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 028 (P2-08): IOPort
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 029 (P2-09): IOPort
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 030 (P2-10): IOPort
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 031 (P2-11): IOPort
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 032 (P2-12): IOPort
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 033 (P2-13): IOPort
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: registered
hm2_5i25.0: initialized AnyIO board at 0000:04:06.0
hm2_5i25.0: dropping AnyIO board at 0000:04:06.0
hm2/hm2_5i25.0: unregistered
hm2_pci: driver unloaded
hm2: unloading
Removing HAL_LIB, RTAPI, and Real Time OS modules
Removing NML shared memory segments

Debug file information:
Note: Using POSIX realtime
No input devices could be opened. This usually indicates a misconfigured
system. Please read the section 'PERMISSIONS AND UDEV' in the hal_input
manpage
./MH800E.hal:12: waitpid failed hal_input hal_input
./MH800E.hal:12: hal_input exited without becoming ready
1211
Stopping realtime threads
Unloading hal components
RTAPI_PCI: Unmapped 65536 bytes at 0x7f956125a000
Note: Using POSIX realtime

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Info report created by linuxcnc_info:
The file: /tmp/linuxcnc_info.txt
can be posted to a forum or a web site like:
pastebin.com
in order to provide information about the linuxcnc
system and configuration.

Date: Sun Dec 1 08:29:00 AM EST 2024
UTC Date: Sun Dec 1 01:29:00 PM UTC 2024
this program: /usr/bin/linuxcnc_info
uptime: 08:29:00 up 0 min, 1 user, load average: 1.51, 0.37, 0.12
lsb_release -sa: Debian Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) 12 bookworm
linuxcnc: /usr/bin/linuxcnc
pwd: /home/coopedup/linuxcnc/configs/MH800E
USER: coopedup
LOGNAME: coopedup
HOME: /home/coopedup
EDITOR:
VISUAL:
LANGUAGE:
TERM: dumb
COLORTERM:
DISPLAY: :0.0
DESKTOP: lightdm-xsession
display size: 1920x1080 pixels (508x285 millimeters)
PATH: /usr/bin:/home/coopedup/linuxcnc/configs/MH800E/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games

uname items:
nodename -n: coopedup
kernel-name -s: Linux
kernel-vers -v: #1 SMP PREEMPT_RT Debian 6.1.124-1 (2025-01-12)
machine -m: x86_64
processor -p: unknown
platform -i: unknown
oper system -o: GNU/Linux

/proc items:
cmdline: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-30-rt-amd64 root=UUID=b581ec7e-d84c-481b-a4e0-faa5ae23e5e5 ro initrd=/install/gtk/initrd.gz quiet
model name: AMD FX(tm)-8320 Eight-Core Processor
cores: 4
cpu MHz: 3515.449
parport: 0000-0000 : parport0
serial: 0000-0000 : serial

Versions:
gcc: gcc (Debian 12.2.0-14) 12.2.0
python: Python 3.11.2
git: not_in_PATH
git commit: NA
tcl: 8.6
tk: 8.6
glade: not_in_PATH

linuxcnc_var all:

LINUXCNCVERSION: 2.9.4
LINUXCNC_AUX_GLADEVCP: /usr/share/linuxcnc/aux_gladevcp
LINUXCNC_AUX_EXAMPLES: /usr/share/linuxcnc/aux_examples
REALTIME: /usr/lib/linuxcnc/realtime
RTS: uspace
HALLIB_DIR: /usr/share/linuxcnc/hallib
PYTHON: /usr/bin/python3

dpkg -l '*linuxcnc*':
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name Version Architecture Description
+++-===================-============-============-=====================================================================
un linuxcnc <none> <none> (no description available)
un linuxcnc-dev <none> <none> (no description available)
un linuxcnc-doc <none> <none> (no description available)
ii linuxcnc-doc-de 1:2.9.4 all motion controller for CNC machines and robots (German documentation)
ii linuxcnc-doc-en 1:2.9.4 all motion controller for CNC machines and robots (English documentation)
ii linuxcnc-doc-es 1:2.9.4 all motion controller for CNC machines and robots (Spanish documentation)
ii linuxcnc-doc-fr 1:2.9.4 all motion controller for CNC machines and robots (French documentation)
un linuxcnc-sim <none> <none> (no description available)
un linuxcnc-sim-dev <none> <none> (no description available)
ii linuxcnc-uspace 1:2.9.4 amd64 motion controller for CNC machines and robots
ii linuxcnc-uspace-dev 1:2.9.4 amd64 PC based motion controller for real-time Linux

here is that log, I dont remember selecting an MPG but maybe I did.

What I hope will be the last part of my adventure, is to add a spindle encoder for rigid tapping etc.Mission now achieved. 48 teeth on the lower side of the drive pully as well as an index tooth on the upper side, (complete with counterbalance weight).Have used ATS616LSG hall effects, with 10k biasing resistors which produce at the 7i77 encoder 05 inputs, good clean 5volt signals.I have yet to get properly to grips with the hal side of things, but at first sight, the hal scope doesn’t look right.

is this the <initcmd> tag?

I don't know that, but if you have static data you can set that using the SDO instead.

These servos have so many functions and parameters, that 10 is a really small limit.
Is there a way to split the pdoentry tags into multiple pdos?
Or change them during operation, e.g. have a different ethercat-conf.xml during homing vs. normal operation?

It is not uncommon for devices to have a limit on how much data they can exchange.
But do you need all of those PDOs? I guess not.
So just delete the ones you do not use from ethercat-conf.xml

Seems that there may actually be two printouts on the same line:which comes from motionwhich seems to come from the Axis GUI:
github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/6f7753...s/tcl/axis.tcl#L1838
You are not giving us much else to go on. Are you getting getting following errors on joint 0 when using other Gcode or is it only with this particular program?

i have the attached ethercat-conf.xml (for stepperonline A6 servos).
Each time i add more than 10 pdoentry tags, i get the following error in /var/log/messages:

Jun  2 09:04:11 cnc kernel: EtherCAT ERROR 0-1: SDO download 0x1A00:0B (4 bytes) aborted.
Jun  2 09:04:11 cnc kernel: EtherCAT ERROR 0-1: SDO abort message 0x06090011: "Subindex does not exist".
Jun  2 09:04:11 cnc kernel: EtherCAT WARNING 0-1: Failed to map PDO entry 0x60FD:00 (32 bit) to position 11.
Jun  2 09:04:11 cnc kernel: EtherCAT WARNING 0-1: Currently mapped PDO entries: 0x6041:00/16 0x6061:00/8 0x6064:00/32 0x606C:00/32 0x6077:00/16 0x60BA:00/32 0x60BC:00/32 0x60B9:00/16 0x603F:00/16 0x60F4:00/32 0x60FD:00/32. Entries to map: 0x6041:00/16 0x6061:00/8 0x6064:00/32 0x606C:00/32 0x6077:00/16 0x60BA:00/32 0x60BC:00/32 0x60B9:00/16 0x603F:00/16 0x60F4:00/32 0x60FD:00/32
Jun  2 09:04:11 cnc kernel: EtherCAT WARNING 0-1: Failed to configure mapping of PDO 0x1A00.
Jun  2 09:04:11 cnc kernel: EtherCAT 0: Domain 0: Working counter changed to 3/12.
Jun  2 09:04:13 cnc kernel: EtherCAT ERROR 0-1: Failed to set SAFEOP state, slave refused state change (PREOP + ERROR).
Jun  2 09:04:13 cnc kernel: EtherCAT ERROR 0-1: AL status message 0x001E: "Invalid input configuration".
Jun  2 09:04:13 cnc kernel: EtherCAT 0-1: Acknowledged state PREOP.

If i remove / comment out any one pdoentry, the error goes away.
master idx="0" has no error, idx="1" - idx="3" have the error.  
There seems to be a limit of max 10 entries?
How can i work around this?

 

Hey yall. Im a machinist by trade. I initially learned cnc on linuxcnc about 10y ago. Now I run "Real" cnc machines using fanuc and Haas. Initially I missed linuxcnc, but now when I go back and use my little linux mill, I am annoyed by the tool table and just the "PC" feel in general. The Fanuc soft keys are actually super nice and you can quickly go between work offsets, tool offsets ect. I can for example go to my absolute position page, do some mental math, type a number in the control, switch pages to my offsets, and input+ that number in seconds to quickly set offsets and stuff. No need for a mouse or anything silly like that. Hass is very similar but its even better with dedicated buttons to kick into the offsets or positions pages. Honestly the mouse is a major pain in a shop environment. The fanuc/Hass button based interaction is crazy fast for me compared to scrolling around on linuxcnc. suggestions? also itd be nice to get rid of the X Y tool offset and just have length/wear and diameter/wear. is there an "industrial GUI" im missing out on?

Can you post the terminal log?

( start Linuxcnc from the terminal and copy-paste the messages printed )

The previous error indicated an issue with a (probably USB) input device like a MPG

I would create  a configuration without the added input device to get past this error
for now

 

I have spent some more time trying to troubleshoot why I cant launch the software, I cant seem to figure out where I am going wrong, I have it real barebones. I am sure I am configuring something wrong I just cant get past the error message when I click the launch icon. it tells me to look at the inputs config or whatever but I am not even sure what that is. I think I am supposed to enter a serial port number somewhere for setting the mode that the 7i77 is in but I cant find that in the hal or ini file...

Thanks everyone, ill dig into the above suggestions. 

And yes, i should have been a little clearer, im not worried about the following error stuff, i was just happy to be seeing signs of life. 

Ok, think I have figured it out, most of it at least. Had to make a visual representation of the HAL finnstrom posted. See attachement. Also got it sort of working on my machine. Tanks so much!Some things I'll try to adopt

• Instead of controlling with coolant-mist, I would do it with a motion.digital-out pin controlled with M62 and M63
• Trying to get the w_offset from actual w0 in current coordinate system. My thought is to touch of both Z to the work piece, and set w0 in G54 (for example) at the desired height. Then, somehow in HAL, calculate the w0 offset from w joint zero. In the (unlikely) event that I need dust shoe for G55 etc, this should enable this to work.
• In conjunction with above, I think I need jogging to work (in qtdragon) to easy set w0 current coordinate system.