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  • scotta
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01 Aug 2025 22:01

Remora - ethernet NVEM / EC300 / EC500 cnc board

Category: Computers and Hardware

You're correct. In the currently available modules there is no basic analog input. But the underlying code is there and used in the thermistor module.
  • warwickben
  • warwickben
01 Aug 2025 21:38
Mini pc recommendations? was created by warwickben

Mini pc recommendations?

Category: Computers and Hardware

I had bought a mini pc from Amazon and I’m not sure if it’s causing latency issues or not ? I’m using a mesa 7i96s .   This is the mini pc I bought.
www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0DNT28BV1?psc=1&...pop_mob_b_asin_title 
i shut every thing i could off in the bios including WiFi. 

I was using probe basic but I get a latency error and random disconnects . 
Could I just switch to a raspberry pi5 16gih version? 
  • PCW
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01 Aug 2025 21:16 - 01 Aug 2025 21:19

W5100S-EVB-PICO stepgenerator and encoder driver

Category: Driver Boards

The issue with the sampling speed has to do with velocity calculations,
mainly at lower speeds or lower resolution encoders:

Imagine you have a 1000 count (250 PPR) encoder turning at 30 RPM (= 0.5 RPS so 500 Hz count rate)
If sampled at LinuxCNCs standard 1 KHz rate, you would get 1 count every other
sample, since the most basic velocity calculations would use the difference in counts to determine
the velocity, the velocity calculation would alternate between 0 RPM (count change of 0) and 60 RPM
(count change of 1). At higher speeds the problem gets better but does not go away, at 90 RPM
with the same encoder/sample rate, you would get alternating counts of 1 and 2 so alternating
velocity calculations of 60 and 120 RPM.

You can of course filter the velocity value since the average value will be correct, but this is not desirable
if the velocity is used for feedback as it lowers the control bandwidth.

The normal way  this is improved is by velocity estimation, which changes the velocity calculation from
delta_counts/sample_time to delta_counts/time_between_counts. This typically requires that the low level
hardware timestamp count changes to allow the time_between_counts to be determined.

Once you have decent velocity estimation, you can do tricks like position interpolation, allowing
use of very low resolution encoders for constant speed spindle synchronized motion like threading.
  • PCW
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01 Aug 2025 20:41
Replied by PCW on topic Spindle speed?

Spindle speed?

Category: Basic Configuration

 You posted Knuth.hal but not:

6i24.hal
LadderIO.hal
custom.hal
custom_postgui.hal

These are all parts of the configuration
  • TheTinkeringMechanic1
  • TheTinkeringMechanic1
01 Aug 2025 20:17
Replied by TheTinkeringMechanic1 on topic Spindle speed?

Spindle speed?

Category: Basic Configuration

Looking into halshow now.
  • TheTinkeringMechanic1
  • TheTinkeringMechanic1
01 Aug 2025 20:12
Replied by TheTinkeringMechanic1 on topic Spindle speed?

Spindle speed?

Category: Basic Configuration

Is there something specific you are looking for? There are a myriad of back up files stored in here.
  • TheTinkeringMechanic1
  • TheTinkeringMechanic1
01 Aug 2025 19:35
Replied by TheTinkeringMechanic1 on topic Spindle speed?

Spindle speed?

Category: Basic Configuration

Unfortunately, I got the lovely task of coming in behind somebody else and I need to figure it out. I knew nothing of Linux prior to a month ago, but I'm a fast learner. This has had me stumped for quite some time. If you could point me towards some documentation or if you could give some guidance on how to accomplish what is needed, that would be greatly appreciated.
  • PCW
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01 Aug 2025 19:15 - 01 Aug 2025 19:35
Replied by PCW on topic Spindle speed?

Spindle speed?

Category: Basic Configuration

If you look at the hal file, none of the important spindle connections
actually connect to anything, that is, the hi-lighted signal names are
not connected to any driving source.

EDIT: can you post the other hal files? I suspect the missing
connections are there.

HALFILE = Knuth.hal
HALFILE = 6i24.hal
HALFILE = LadderIO.hal
HALFILE = custom.hal
POSTGUI_HALFILE = custom_postgui.hal


Also using halshow to watch hm2_5i24.0.7i83.0.2.analogout0
when running the spindle in each direction would help debug this
  • TheTinkeringMechanic1
  • TheTinkeringMechanic1
01 Aug 2025 18:54
Replied by TheTinkeringMechanic1 on topic Spindle speed?

Spindle speed?

Category: Basic Configuration

They were posted earlier in this thread. Not much has changed since then.
  • PCW
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01 Aug 2025 18:52
Replied by PCW on topic Spindle speed?

Spindle speed?

Category: Basic Configuration

Can you post your hal/ini files?
  • TheTinkeringMechanic1
  • TheTinkeringMechanic1
01 Aug 2025 18:49
Replied by TheTinkeringMechanic1 on topic Spindle speed?

Spindle speed?

Category: Basic Configuration

Upon closer inspection, it is 7i83. I'll get a flashlight next time. How can I tell if the version I have is too old? (LinuxCNC 3.4.6) Furthermore, can I update it?
  • PCW
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01 Aug 2025 18:39
Replied by PCW on topic Spindle speed?

Spindle speed?

Category: Basic Configuration

You probably mean a 7I83 or 7I77 (the 7I87 is an analog _input_ card)

My guess is that there is a missing abs function in the hal file.

The 7I83 and 7I77 have bipolar +-10V analog outputs, but most VFDs
only take a unipolar ( typically 0 to +10V) input range, so you either need to
use the absolute spindle speed pin from motion or add an abs function
if you have an old enough LinuxCNC version that does not have the absolute
spindle speed pin.
  • TheTinkeringMechanic1
  • TheTinkeringMechanic1
01 Aug 2025 18:24
Replied by TheTinkeringMechanic1 on topic Spindle speed?

Spindle speed?

Category: Basic Configuration

Alright. Finally back on this project. The control appears to come from computer to a mesa 7187 to the VFD. The forward and reverse commands from the board go into STF and STR to command direction. Pins 2 (input) 5 (analog common). In forward the voltage ramps up and down as commanded through the gui and shows rpm in the bar. But in reverse the voltage to the VFD stays the same. If I switch forward and reverse command wires in the VFD they simply act in opposite. This eliminates the VFD as the issue. I need to find out why Linux isn't controlling the voltage to the VFD in reverse and also why it's not displaying reverse RPM in the GUI.
  • PCW
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01 Aug 2025 17:36
Replied by PCW on topic Mesa 7i96S MPG encoder on P1

Mesa 7i96S MPG encoder on P1

Category: Driver Boards

Glad it's working, I just automatically applied the patch.

The patch docs don't mention any project file
incompatibilities but that's what seems to have
been the  issue.
 
  • roland100
  • roland100
01 Aug 2025 16:45
Replied by roland100 on topic Mesa 7i96S MPG encoder on P1

Mesa 7i96S MPG encoder on P1

Category: Driver Boards

Hello PCW,

Your advice was right. I applied the 2025.1 patch an everything went as expected.
Efinity 2025.1.110.3.16 works fine on ubuntu 24.04.
I can edit the files, change them and flash my 7i96s wit the expected result.

Thank you very much
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