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  • Axeman
  • Axeman
11 Jun 2025 16:54

Advice and general guidance on a potential Fadal 4020HT retrofit

Category: CNC Machines

Hello everyone!

I am currently investigating a linuxcnc retrofit on a Fadal 4020HT. The machine is a 1996, and I am as of now unsure if it has AC or DC servos. Still figuring out if I am going to go ahead with purchasing it...its potentially a steal!

So background, I am already pretty familiar with linuxcnc. I have a gantry mill that I built from the groundup running linuxcnc/gmoccapy that I make my living with building guitars. Looking to move to something more powerful with an ATC and so I'm shopping VMCs.  Might sound strange but they are a standard for a lot of guitar manufacturers and would greatly improve my workflow.

So this 4020 is from a good sized machine shop, it is under power but hasn't really been used for about a year.  I was able to inspect it and mechanically it is in great shape. There appears to be some sort of problem with the spindle orientation sensing on it. It is running an old 88HS control right now. 

My intention is to potentially purchase this machine and move it over to linuxcnc with probe basic.  Any general guidance or tips from people that have been down a similar road would be greatly appreciated. I also have a few specific questions:
  • Since I'm using linuxcnc, is it reasonable or a good idea now or in the future to change the spindle drive over to a modern VFD while retaining the original spindle? I know these spindle drives can be a big cost and difficulty when they go out. I'm also not sure how compatible the existing drive would be with linuxcnc control.
  • Related to the above, I am interested in running this conversion on single phase power if that is possible. I believe the servo drivers all ultimately run on DC power, whether they are AC or DC servos, correct? In that case, if I were to also be able to run a VFD from single phase I should be able to avoid the phase converter route. 
  • I have not had much luck finding wiring diagrams that give specifics about the lines for the encoders/resolvers on the servos. Does anyone have a good reference for their detailed function to help me figure out how to interface with mesa cards?
  • What is the general opinion on homing and limits for fadal conversions? This one, like most or all of them, has that cold start system where you line up the marks on each axis and let the resolvers/encoders do their routine at startup. As far as I understand it has no limit switches or scales or similar. Is it preferable to mimic the same sort of system with linuxcnc or install some sort of homing switches?
  • Has anyone had any luck interfacing a jog wheel interface on a VMC with linuxcnc? I would absolutely love to keep that function.
Thank you in advance for any insights you have to offer!
  • juliankoenig87
  • juliankoenig87
11 Jun 2025 16:51
Replied by juliankoenig87 on topic 7i96s Erweiterung

7i96s Erweiterung

Category: Deutsch

Wie schon gesagt. Das einfachste wären die sserial (smart serial) Karten. Das ist plug n play. Bei der 7i84 zb. hast du s.g. Darlington Ausgänge. Die klnnen kleinere induktive Lasten wie Relaisspulen oder deine Ventile treiben. Haben sogar Freilaufdioden integriert.

Wenn dein Expansionport noch frei ist, kannst du auch die billige Selbstbaulösung fahren. An dem Port liegen 17 IO Pins des Fpgas frei, die du an Relaisboards klemmen kannst. Bzw. an deren Optokopplereingängen natürlich.

Also. Etwas Eigenbau/Gefrickel und du hast Kosten um die 20 Euro. Oder ne 7i84 zum Beispiel die wesentlich mehr kann und plug n play ist. Kosten so um die 100 Euro. Beides ligitim und die Mesakarten sind allesamt tiptop.
  • NT4Boy
  • NT4Boy
11 Jun 2025 16:43
Replied by NT4Boy on topic HURCO KMB-1 Control Update

HURCO KMB-1 Control Update

Category: Milling Machines

P values from 1.5 up to 4 are now controlling, but with an increasing frequency of oscillation the higher the P.
Time to dig out Tommy and JT's tuning guides.
  • hans48
  • hans48
11 Jun 2025 16:38
Replied by hans48 on topic Ein Neuling sucht Hilfe

Ein Neuling sucht Hilfe

Category: Deutsch

Hallo DG9MDR
Danke für die Info. Werde es Versuchen zu finden.
Gruß Hans (OE6LNG) wenn das ein Amateur Rufzeichen war.
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