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  • maxi177
  • maxi177
22 Mar 2025 17:18
Replied by maxi177 on topic dead Outputs on Mesa 7i76E and blown up 7i85S

dead Outputs on Mesa 7i76E and blown up 7i85S

Category: Driver Boards

Thanks, Tommy.
The shop is heated and very dry, especially during the German winter, so moisture is probably not the issue.
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Max
  • tommylight
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22 Mar 2025 17:13
Replied by tommylight on topic dead Outputs on Mesa 7i76E and blown up 7i85S

dead Outputs on Mesa 7i76E and blown up 7i85S

Category: Driver Boards

Picture 2, that looks like arcing across those two parts, moisture can do that, but the rest of the boards look like there is no moisture in quantities to cause that.
  • scotth
  • scotth
22 Mar 2025 17:07
Replied by scotth on topic Blown 7i84

Blown 7i84

Category: Driver Boards

With Q1 open, what do you have between L1,L2,and L3?
  • tommylight
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22 Mar 2025 17:07
Replied by tommylight on topic Blown 7i84

Blown 7i84

Category: Driver Boards

Is the neutral wired on the machine?
What connector is used at the wall?
Was that connector or the wall socket changed before the incident?
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Assuming using industrial 16A or 32A plugs, they can easily be miss wired by switching neutral and one of the phases, be it on the wall or on the machine plug.
When no neutral is used, usually not much happens, but when neutral is used that causes ... things to happen.
Mentioning this as it happens a lot where i live.
  • FPM
  • FPM
22 Mar 2025 16:59
Replied by FPM on topic converting a tos/intos fngj 40

converting a tos/intos fngj 40

Category: Milling Machines

Does anyone use jmc integrated servos with a 7i77?
I know they work with pulse/dir but in the manual they mention some kind of external analog instruction, but nothing about +/-10v.
Or is there any other other possibility to drive them with a 7i77?

Manual:
www.rocketronics.de/download/datasheet/i...v_v6_2020_manual.pdf
  • tommylight
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22 Mar 2025 16:58
Replied by tommylight on topic Any experience with cnc-step machines?

Any experience with cnc-step machines?

Category: Milling Machines

Those should be a complete mechanical set, so no need for BOM.
One thing that i noticed just from a quick glance there, all those say weight is 140KG, impossible due to huge size differences, so that is lazy on their part. I feel bad for other Germans, i have a lot of respect for their punctuality, now this....and the bureaucracy.
  • maxi177
  • maxi177
22 Mar 2025 16:55 - 22 Mar 2025 16:56
Replied by maxi177 on topic dead Outputs on Mesa 7i76E and blown up 7i85S

dead Outputs on Mesa 7i76E and blown up 7i85S

Category: Driver Boards

Thank you for your response, Peter.
Is the NCV7608 still available? I only found one listing on Aliexpress, which makes me wonder if it’s becoming hard to source.

While taking a closer look at the board, I found a small piece of cut wire lying around in that area:
 
 

Could this have caused the issue?If not, what else could I check to resolve the 5V overvoltage?
The 7i85S is powered via the 25-pin connector from the 7i76E.
Thanks again for your help!

Max
  • tommylight
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22 Mar 2025 16:52
Replied by tommylight on topic Raspberry Pi 4 and bad latency.. SOLUTIONS?

Raspberry Pi 4 and bad latency.. SOLUTIONS?

Category: Installing LinuxCNC

Much better, move on to wiring and making chips!
Keep an eye when starting LinuxCNC if it complains about latency, it shows a warning usually when enabling it or later during use.
  • cmorley
  • cmorley
22 Mar 2025 16:31
Replied by cmorley on topic QTDragon_hd won't display a larger file.

QTDragon_hd won't display a larger file.

Category: Qtvcp

What about 100-120mb programs? Are they possible? LinuxCNC seems to crash then loading those.


 

i have no experience with very large programs.
There are commands to help with large preview by hiding some of it:
linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/gui/qtdragon.html#_preview_control
 
  • PCW
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22 Mar 2025 16:30

dead Outputs on Mesa 7i76E and blown up 7i85S

Category: Driver Boards

Not sure about the 7I76E outputs, but the 7I85S seems to have been damaged by an overvoltage on the the 5V
supply, possible related to the original fault. It appears that both the IS32174 step/dir driver and U11, the LMV342
have been damaged.

7I85 U11 is part of the encoder circuitry when TTL mode is used, it will not affect differential mode encoders
so the 7I85s will probably continue to function for encoder inputs if they are differential, BUT the 5V situation
needs to be checked.

On the 7I76E, the damaged driver chip (NCV7608) should be replaced as it may fail further and perhaps cause
further damage.
  • cmorley
  • cmorley
22 Mar 2025 16:28
Replied by cmorley on topic QTDragon_hd won't display a larger file.

QTDragon_hd won't display a larger file.

Category: Qtvcp

Seems to load and run here (master branch):
 
  • RotarySMP
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22 Mar 2025 16:22
Replied by RotarySMP on topic Blown 7i84

Blown 7i84

Category: Driver Boards

Okay, now I am getting inconsistent behavior. Yesterday, I switched on the machine, the PC booted, and I was able to check the 7i84 connected with it's 7i77, and also check the voltage of the 24V rail (204).

Today, I wanted to repeat that, but the PC gets no power. I receives 110VAC via pins 150 /151 from the same 3Ph  transformer (6T1) which also powers the 24V DC rails. The 110VAC secondary is protected by fuse 6F6 , which has not tripped.

 

The primary of the that transformer is only protected by that main fuse/breaker Q2. I measured the output of Q2. Between L1/L2--> 400V , L1/L3 -->240V,  L2/L3 --> 200V. WTF?

Shut down again, tripped the switch on Q2 to remove all loads, and measured on the input side of it. Same result... Between L1/L2--> 400V , L1/L3 -->240V,  L2/L3 --> 200V.

Shut down again, pulled the socket from the wall and measured. The supply is normal. 400V phase to phase between all three. There is no isolation transformer. None of the fuses or breakers has tripped.

 

I am kind of confused what could be pulling down the voltage on those lines, unless I have an open circuit on one and the multimeter is just picking up tiny current induced into the lines like an antenna?
  • looping
  • looping
22 Mar 2025 16:07
Replied by looping on topic QTDragon_hd won't display a larger file.

QTDragon_hd won't display a larger file.

Category: Qtvcp

The complete dmesg is more interresting as there a mention about qtvcp
[  160.876803] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: skipped size 0000000000000000
[  160.877509] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: skipped size 0000000000000000
[  213.991546] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: gr: intr 00100000 [ERROR] nsource 00010000 [DMA_VTX_PROTECTION] nstatus 04000000 [PROTECTION_FAULT] ch 4 [00109000 qtvcp[1515]] subc 7 class 4097 mthd 1824 data 16002556
[  213.991571] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: gr: intr 00100000 [ERROR] nsource 00010000 [DMA_VTX_PROTECTION] nstatus 04000000 [PROTECTION_FAULT] ch 4 [00109000 qtvcp[1515]] subc 7 class 4097 mthd 1f08 data 38ff8189
[  213.991602] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: gr: intr 00100000 [ERROR] nsource 00010000 [DMA_VTX_PROTECTION] nstatus 04000000 [PROTECTION_FAULT] ch 4 [00109000 qtvcp[1515]] subc 7 class 4097 mthd 1680 data 054d6000
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