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If the homing direct does not change, then it's likely the you did not
change the correct ini constant (or perhaps there is another error in
the ini file homing constants or perhaps home switch operation)

I don't think you can eliminate the soft limits issue unless you get the
MIN_LIMIT and MAX_LIMIT setup properly (MIN_LIMIT < MAX_LIMIT)

It may also be the you have the hardware directions reversed, this you can
fix by inverting the direction pin or changing the sign of the joint SCALE
ini constant. (say 4000 to -4000)

Working like a charm.
Thank you very much Peter!

P.S.
Damn self-made DB25 cables. Firmware initially didn't make any difference. Apparently cables on P1 and P2 were backward. Reversed both DB25 connectors and now I see both 7I76 and 7I89 and encoders are working. These Mesa cards seem to be very robust, even all wrong signals on all the wrong pins didn't make them go dead.

paste your compiler error, I will make a suggestion that might get me shot, but Chat Gpt4o has been trained on the linuxcnc halcompile syntax, you have to bully it a bit to get it moving but it can help you debug, but share the compiler output I'll see what i can do to help.

7I76EU firmware with 7I76 on P1 and 7I89 on P2

 

Each connector is independent, though module channels may differ between firmwares
Note on the 7I89, you may need to turn on Encoder power (depending on jumpering) and it
also requires  both cable  _and_ external 5V supply to P1.

PCW wrote:

Wrong firmware, 7i76eu_7i76x1_7i88_7i89d.bin is for a 7I76EU +7I88 (P1) + 7I89 (P2)

I'll take a look at making a config for a 7I76 (P1) and 7I89 (P2), but probably tommorow...
 

Would it be 7I76U (with sink/source I/O option and spindle/encoder interface) on P1 and 7I89 on P2?
Also, 7i76eu_7i76x1_7i88_7i89d.bin has 7I89 on P2. Should 7I89 on P2 work even if 7I76 on P1 doesn't? Or P1 and P2 handling is interdependent?

Wrong firmware, 7i76eu_7i76x1_7i88_7i89d.bin is for a 7I76EU +7I88 (P1) + 7I89 (P2)

I'll take a look at making a config for a 7I76 (P1) and 7I89 (P2), but probably tommorow...
 

As you're asking for an interface board I'm Gunna assume you have a 7c81 at hand.
The expensive route but most complete, reliable and expandle route would be a 7i76, not the ethernet version but a plain version that you connect via a ribbon cable. This will give you everything you need except the stepper drivers on board.
In all honesty as a preference I much prefer the "standard" type stepper drivers rather than the types used on the smaller desktop CNC toys and such.
Unfortunately as you've found out there's not a lot of breakout boards available that handle 24v signals, most will be a DIY thing.

That may be, but I have 7I76U and its manual says (www.mesanet.com/pdf/parallel/7i76uman.pdf page 5) that sserial should be on DB25 pins 7-10 (two of them in fact), while 7i76eu_7i76x1_7i88_7i89d.pin file has just one sserial on pins 11-13 and no spindle encoder. It instead has 2 additional stepgens which my 7I76U doesn't have.

Might want to wait for confirmation from PCW, but to me it seems all good, and yes sserial's must be there as 7i76 has a sserial port and uses another sserial channel for IO.

Here it is. 
As I see it, pinout for P1 connector (where 7I76U is connected) is wrong for pins 7-13 (Sserial and spindle encoder)
 

koch777 wrote:

That one has all the right pinouts, but seem to be for older generation of 7I76 (Spartan FPGA?), not sure it will work for my 7I76EU (Efinix FPGA)

It does not work and might brick the card, well i am sure it will brick it, but being Mesa there might be ways to save it, so do not flash that.
Post the result of mesaflash readhmid here se we can have a look.

Hello everyone,

So, I have this configuration:

• Main board is Mesa 7I76EU
• 7I76U connected to main board expansion header P1
• 7I89 connected to main board expansion header P2

Main board's +5V is connected to P5; +24V field power - to TB1.
Actually, never mind, main 7I76EU is not a problem, it works, everything's detected, steppers are moving, spindle/spindle encoder are working, MPG is working.

Now, expansion 7I76U (on P1 header) is indicating communication failure (red led in the middle of te board). It doesn't show up in halconfig (should it?). Field power is there, cable power from main board is there.

For 7I89 I see all 8 encoders, but encoder inputs do not react to signals from encoders. None of the encoder input-a/input-b/rawcounts change despite the fact that physical signals from encoders are. Encoders are TTL and so 7I89 is jumpered accordingly.
+5V power to 7I89 is connected to its P1 and cable power from 7I76EU is activated as well (per 7I89 manual). Encoders are powered and working just fine (checked with oscilloscope).

Firmware I load is from mesa website: 7i76eu_7i76x1_7i88_7i89d.bin
It is somewhat strange as its 7i76eu_7i76x1_7i88_7i89d.pin file has stepgens 10/11 where 7I76U (P1) should have Sserial and it also has Sserial where should be MuxedQCount (spindle encoder). Basically I/O for DB25 pins 7-13 is all wrong for 7I76U.
Probably that's why my 7I76 doesn't work.

I'm afraid to load firmware from post www.forum.linuxcnc.org/27-driver-boards/...7i89-firmware#240149
That one has all the right pinouts, but seem to be for older generation of 7I76 (Spartan FPGA?), not sure it will work for my 7I76EU (Efinix FPGA)
It also has clock high frequency set at 200MHz, while 7i76eu_7i76x1_7i88_7i89d.pin shows 160MHz.

How can I get out of this predicaments?
Can anybody help?

pgf wrote:

Can anyone point to the product I'm looking for?  Or tell me (nicely what I should be looking for instead?
 

That is a very nice way of asking, thank you.
Take a picture of the insides of the electric/control box and upload it here, we need to know what is there to be able to tell you what next.
In general, get the so called "TB6600" drives that use the TB67S109 chip (cheaper and smaller box), they are very good and usually under 10$ a piece, then get an old PC with parallel port, preferably Dell OptiPlex 980 in the big tower case as it has a built in parallel port, and a DB25 to DC25 or Centronics cable, cut one side, strip down some 15CM, use multimeter to find the pins 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and wire those to the drives. Add a power supply for the drives, be it from old PC or even better laptop adapter or just cram the drives inside the PC case (plenty of room there) and use it's power supply 12V rail. That is it, for under 100$ you have a very reliable CNC machine controller.
Be warned that it will be limited in speed, though, depending on drive voltage and microstepping set on the drives, but it will work for years without issues.
You can add a Mesa to that setup whenever you want...

alright now, any questions?

aDm1N wrote:

I started from scratch with the standard examples. I made some adjustments, and now Remora Input 4 is responding. However, this only happens when the emergency shutdown is disabled in the GUI. So, Remora probably only starts working after that.

that makes sense.
refer to tuxcnc example

I havent tested it, but this looks like what you need to do. you need to modify the portion of your halfile that already references it

DarkPhoinix wrote:

I have recreated the problem with the function generator. Now I am sure the problem lies in the configuration, or so I believe. For now, I would like to know which parameters I need to set to have the same parameters for frequency and pulse times in the hal and ini files (like pulse 1,000,000ns frequency 988Hz). Thank you again for your patience!

refer to the previous posts. replace the stepgen in your config.txt with the DMA stepgen. Make sure the step and direction pins are the NVEM one. The step time and space parts are what you need to configure. I dont know the units. start at 1 and 1 and go up from there.

I need hardware suggestions.  There seems to be a gap in my knowledge, and in my research.

I just got a new CNC router, and it came with a Grbl-based controller.  I always used LinuxCNC in the past on my DIY machine, and I can already tell that I'll probably be happier if I switch to LinuxCNC on the new one.

The most recent incarnation of the old machine was driven by a Raspberry Pi and a Mesa ethernet card.  The Mesa was connected almost directly to the limit and estop switches, and the step/dir lines went to a quad stepper driver board I got from Sparkfun a long long time ago.  The wiring was a horrible rat's nest of jumpers running between pin connectors glued upside down to a plank.  (I'm not exaggerating.) And I don't want to use the Sparkfun board again, for various reasons.

At some point I'm going to want to use the Mesa card with the new machine.  But what I'm picturing, that I don't have, is the "interface" board.  It needs to take 24V power, and have 3 or 4 of those little 16 bit stepper driver modules.  And it needs to have a bunch of screw terminal strips, set up to logically simplify the 6 or 7 pairs going to switches, the 3 or 4 connections to the motors, and all of the interconnect to the Mesa.  Basically what I want is an XYZ CNC router breakout board, with drivers.

But all I can find is complete controllers:  all of what I described, hardwired to an ATMega328, or ESP32.  Or, all of what I described, in the form of an Arduino hat.  Better, but still not very Mesa-friendly.

Can anyone point to the product I'm looking for?  Or tell me (nicely what I should be looking for instead?