(SOLVED) BUG REPORT: Gmocappy Homing buttons in joint mode in Master

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9 years 9 months ago #86998 by rodw

newbynobi wrote: Hallo Rodw,

I take that one on my to do list, but not in the INI.
IMHO it should go to the settings page.

Norbert


Thanks Norbert. Whatever is easier for you.

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9 years 9 months ago #87002 by rodw
Norbert, there might be an even simpler way.

Your JA example has this
Code:
KINEMATICS = trivkins coordinates=xyyz kinstype=BOTH

If you use
Code:
KINEMATICS = trivkins coordinates=xyyz
the Joint mode is disabled, the world mode selection button is hidden but gmocappy incorrectly provides Homing buttons for separate XYZ axis but these are tied to joints as there is no homing pins for a separate axis. This is actually the source of the bug as gmoccappy is out of step with the new joint model.

So I think the correct resolution is to hide the individual axis homing buttons and display a home all button only if the .ini file does not support
Code:
kinstype=BOTH

That would make me very happy!
Others might not be as happy with this change, but a GUI needs to reflect the LCNC model and currently it does not.

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9 years 9 months ago #87007 by newbynobi
Again, it is not a bug!
That is the way Joint Axis branch behave.

If you would use a config XYZX in your case, the homing button would home the correct joints.
I have not checked jet, but axis should behave very similar, try to home the joints individualy with axis and report. You can do that, using the menu, not button.

Norbert

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9 years 9 months ago #87008 by newbynobi
Please consider, you are using a trivial kinematics, but LinucCNC can handle also non trivial kinematics!

Norbert

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9 years 9 months ago #87012 by rodw

newbynobi wrote: Again, it is not a bug!
That is the way Joint Axis branch behave.

If you would use a config XYZX in your case, the homing button would home the correct joints.
I have not checked jet, but axis should behave very similar, try to home the joints individualy with axis and report. You can do that, using the menu, not button.

Norbert


Thanks Norbert, I will try your suggestion and review Axis tonight. A simple solution would be nice. I suspect however, the Home X axis will still only move Joint 0 and not move Joint 3

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9 years 9 months ago #87083 by rodw
Ok, its 4:00 am but I was awake!

Though trying to resolve this issue, I have developed a much greater understanding of the operating modes of LCNC.

I took the standard Gmocappy Joint axis sim (which has XYYZ geometry) and made 2 changes in the .ini file:
1. Told it to use Axis instead of Gmocappy
2. Removed the kinstype=both from the KINEMATICS setting

So the .ini changes are shown below
Code:
[DISPLAY] DISPLAY = axis #DISPLAY = gmoccapy [KINS] KINEMATICS = trivkins coordinates=xyyz #KINEMATICS = trivkins coordinates=xyyz kinstype=BOTH JOINTS = 4

Hers is a screen dump from axis showing homing menu



so then I changed the display back to Gmoccappy
Code:
#DISPLAY = axis DISPLAY = gmoccapy

And here is the homing screen dump



As you can see, Axis does not allow you to home the Y axis (which is the joint axis in this config). I believe it does this to prevent a user from tearing the gantry apart by only homing one side.

Gmocappy on the other hand, does not prevent the user to home just one side of the gantry and thus could result in a damaged machine.

I also believe from all the research id did in building my config that
Code:
kinstype=BOTH
should not be used in a Joint Axis configuration. Perhaps somebody with more experience can confirm this.

So from this testing, it would appear that there are 2 issues in Gmocappy.
1. The KINEMATICS statement in the default Joint Axis config is incorrect. It should be
Code:
KINEMATICS = trivkins coordinates=xyyz

2. Gmocappy incorrectly displays homing buttons in a Joint Axis Config and places the machine at risk of being damaged.

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