Z axis height at end of cut

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22 Jun 2020 11:21 #172326 by snowgoer540

how complicated would it be to tie the material thickness in with the probe height? Probe height would be the distance from min. height + distance to top of slats + material thickness + tolerance above material.

Not something I had ever thought of. It would require another parameter for thickness in the cut parameters and material file plus another config panel setting for top of highest slat plus a bit of code. It would also need a bit of thought on how to work for existing material files. Looking at it makes me wish I had thought of it in the beginning, it seems to make sense to me. Probing has always been a PITA. It will be interesting to hear comments from others.


This would be a pretty intuitive way to set probe heights. What I would picture is probing to find the top of the slats once, and then you just enter the thickness of the material you are cutting (could be pulled from the cut parameters), and then have a value above the material where probing speed starts (which you'd also set once and forget). The probing would vary based on the thickness of the material. And even when you set your float switch travel distance, that would be independent of the whole thing. For safety you could just have it do the whole probe at slow speed from the top.

I'm pretty sure I like it, as if I'm being honest, I just change the probe distance number until it does what I want. I know it's measured from the bottom of travel, but it still isn't intuitive to me. The way I just described would make perfect sense, and honestly you'd only have to set the top of the slats once. You wouldn't have to constantly change it for different thickness materials.

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22 Jun 2020 12:07 #172328 by phillc54
Personally I think fast probing is the better option. As long as you have enough float movement then there are no issues with warped/buckled materials. So make sure you have plenty of float movement and set the Probe Height to as low as it goes and set a reasonably low Probe Speed which will be the final probe speed and off you go.

This idea is good but as Tom pointed out there will be issues with distortion.
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22 Jun 2020 12:14 #172330 by snowgoer540

Personally I think fast probing is the better option. As long as you have enough float movement then there are no issues with warped/buckled materials. So make sure you have plenty of float movement and set the Probe Height to as low as it goes and set a reasonably low Probe Speed which will be the final probe speed and off you go.

This idea is good but as Tom pointed out there will be issues with distortion.


My float travels < .030" though before the switch trips, so I'm not sure what that does to me in that case.

I was thinking something along the lines of .5" (12.7mm) above the material thickness, I would think distortion would only be a huge issue if you expect to put it to something like .050" (1.27mm).

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22 Jun 2020 13:18 #172337 by rodw
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for the record, I have seen material warp 40mm+ and have had to hold it down so it was below the probe height or PLasamc went into kangaroo hop mode (which I think has now been fixed...)

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22 Jun 2020 13:32 #172338 by tommylight
5mm thick 2X1 meter sheet, 13CM deformation!
Beat that!

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22 Jun 2020 13:35 #172339 by snowgoer540

5mm thick 2X1 meter sheet, 13CM deformation!
Beat that!


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22 Jun 2020 13:45 #172340 by tommylight
burning fingers, making plastic hat

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22 Jun 2020 15:17 #172356 by tommylight
Hat finished and mounted without burnt fingers, well not much anyway.
Also had 5mm that did not move at all during cutting so i went out for lunch and came back to be greeted by everything finished, but that happened only once, never again.
We get metal from Macedonia, and it is the lowest quality possible, for anything better we have to order from Austria and that is not cheap.
So you wana test the worst case scenarios for plasma cutting, come here, had part of a 4mm plate jump while cutting hitting the torch so hard it removed it from the magnetic holder and threw it 20cm up !

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22 Jun 2020 20:08 #172387 by rodw
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So what is an ideal Z axis travel in your opinion Tommy?

Sounds like you need at least a metre!

But serious, I would be interested in your opinion.

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22 Jun 2020 20:48 #172396 by tommylight
15 to 20 CM should be more than enough for most use cases, that is what i settled on after several years of experience. I did make some at 28CM, 32CM but proved to much.
The reasoning for this, besides worst mild steel ever, is the ability to cut designs on square tubing without the need to remove the slats from the table.
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