QTPlasmaC mode2 - valid arc lost

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07 Sep 2021 19:49 #219874 by fernandosf
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After initial setup, I have wired the external THC with my parallel port controller and my plasma source, it's is a blowback type torch. My THC has a internal divider so I plugged negative and positive straight from euro connector.


Problem is I'm getting "valid arc lost". I guess it happens after THC starts sending UP/DOWN to QTPlasmaC,  because if I set THC "Delay Arc" to 1.5 sec, arc lost happens at 1.5 sec.   In the video below  THC setting "Delay Arc" was 0.5s (I know, too low, but it happens no matter the value, it only postpones the error)



I'm also getting "Probe tripped during non-probe move" but I think that is because the THC is making the torch go DOWN.
 

If I disable THC, it cuts ok.

The test material is 0.8mm galvanized steel. Tried several combinations of pierce height and cut height. Using 20Amps and 5 cfm. 
My Arc-OK UP and DOWN cable is shielded and grounded.  

Could you point me the things I should try setting and testing ?  Thanks.
 
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07 Sep 2021 20:03 #219878 by fernandosf
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This is the TCH view of the failed cut: 


This is the QTPC view:

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07 Sep 2021 23:32 #219895 by phillc54
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Can you post a backup of the config from the Settings Tab

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08 Sep 2021 10:11 - 08 Sep 2021 10:16 #219919 by fernandosf
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Sure, should have done that already.

 

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Thanks for looking at it.

The last messages:

Tue07 12:39 joint 0 on limit switch error
Tue07 12:39 joint 1 on limit switch error
Tue07 12:39 joint 2 on limit switch error
Tue07 12:39 joint 3 on limit switch error
Wed08 06:57 Unexpected realtime delay on task 0 with period 40000
This Message will only display once per session.
Run the Latency Test and resolve before continuing.

were because I had turned the controller off and put Linux to hibernate without shutting down QTPC
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08 Sep 2021 10:44 #219921 by phillc54
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Thanks, could you also post the gcode file that you were using.

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08 Sep 2021 11:42 - 08 Sep 2021 11:46 #219928 by fernandosf
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Sorry, I can't because I'm off site now.
But it is a simple conversational 20x20mm square
If it helps, you can see the g-code in the youtube video above.

 
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08 Sep 2021 11:49 #219929 by phillc54
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OK, that will give me enough to look at tomorrow.

Do you have any information on the THC.

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08 Sep 2021 14:50 #219957 by fernandosf
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Yes, I do.
It's from macrol.com.br (a local company here).

English manual is at:
macrol.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2020/10...WII-V3_4-english.pdf

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09 Sep 2021 04:37 #220036 by phillc54
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I cannot see anything obvious, although I don't understand what the following line is for:
net torch-off-probe      <= parport.0.pin-13-in-not => motion.probe-input 

The pierce and cut heights look to be ok, is the gas pressure good, here is a link to some other things that require checking:
forum.linuxcnc.org/38-general-linuxcnc-q...blem?start=50#218185

The THC says it has optocouplers for the outputs, do you have the polarity correct as shown in the diagram.

If all the above are good then you could possibly try one of the following:

Set a small time for lost arc delay:
linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/plasma/qtpl...html#_lost_arc_delay
setp plasmac.arc-lost-delay 0.1


Increase the debounce for arc ok in custom.hal, it is currently 5.
setp db_arc-ok.delay    5
 

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09 Sep 2021 11:53 #220050 by fernandosf
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Thank you, Phill, for your time and patience.

I will follow your advices and also start fresh with a new config, migrating block by block. I had some merges in the past that may be causing problems.

Will get back and share the findings.

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