Probe Basic Rack based ATC
20 Nov 2023 11:31 #286021
by rmu
Replied by rmu on topic Probe Basic Rack based ATC
dpslwk: I would also place Z0 near the top end of travel, but in the end it doesn't really matter where your G53 coordinate system has its origin. Of course it has to be right-handed else you would mill mirror-parts, and usually Z is parallel to spindle axis and decreases towards the bed.
udos: i got the impression you needed a template how to implement the rack-storage aspect of the tool changing.
This has linuxcnc.org/docs/2.9/html/remap/remap.h...lated_codes_t_m6_m61 explanation of how to do remap of T and M6 to g-code. Here is german version linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/de/remap/re...lated_codes_t_m6_m61
udos: i got the impression you needed a template how to implement the rack-storage aspect of the tool changing.
This has linuxcnc.org/docs/2.9/html/remap/remap.h...lated_codes_t_m6_m61 explanation of how to do remap of T and M6 to g-code. Here is german version linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/de/remap/re...lated_codes_t_m6_m61
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20 Nov 2023 14:10 #286040
by udoS
Replied by udoS on topic Probe Basic Rack based ATC
@rmu
thank you; it took a while but this looks like going in the right direction;
besides: why a simple parameter driven rack-TC doesn't exist; No need ?
I don't think so; it is the most basic thing I go for after TLS;
L.G. udoS
thank you; it took a while but this looks like going in the right direction;
besides: why a simple parameter driven rack-TC doesn't exist; No need ?
I don't think so; it is the most basic thing I go for after TLS;
L.G. udoS
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20 Nov 2023 15:48 #286056
by dpslwk
Replied by dpslwk on topic Probe Basic Rack based ATC
udos
there are hundreds of different ways to implement a rack tool changer
and hundreds more ways to implement carousel changers
and hundreds more ways to implement umbrella changers
so linuxcnc mostly leaves this up to the user, it does have some examples in the sample configs that you have been point at already
Probe Basic has a working umbrella carousel implementation out the box only because the main developer has that style ATC on his machines, if he had rack changers he would have implemented that.
there are hundreds of different ways to implement a rack tool changer
and hundreds more ways to implement carousel changers
and hundreds more ways to implement umbrella changers
so linuxcnc mostly leaves this up to the user, it does have some examples in the sample configs that you have been point at already
Probe Basic has a working umbrella carousel implementation out the box only because the main developer has that style ATC on his machines, if he had rack changers he would have implemented that.
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22 Nov 2023 10:23 #286216
by udoS
Replied by udoS on topic Probe Basic Rack based ATC
@dpslwk,
thanks for your many, sorry, empty, words;
maybe you want to sit down and write a Novell or maybe a Manual;
About one way to implement a rack-toolchanger; A working one;
L.G. udoS
thanks for your many, sorry, empty, words;
maybe you want to sit down and write a Novell or maybe a Manual;
About one way to implement a rack-toolchanger; A working one;
L.G. udoS
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22 Nov 2023 13:12 #286224
by rmu
Replied by rmu on topic Probe Basic Rack based ATC
I did link you a commented complete and working implementation of a rack tool changer.@dpslwk,
thanks for your many, sorry, empty, words;
maybe you want to sit down and write a Novell or maybe a Manual;
About one way to implement a rack-toolchanger; A working one;
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22 Nov 2023 13:13 #286225
by tommylight
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Not sure why all the mess here is about, but in general
Rack tool changers can be done purely in gcode, no hal, no complicated stuff, nothing else!
A while back i tested such a tool changer on a plasma machine that has a single tool, but the routines worked perfectly.
It also has nothing to do with the GUI being used, it works on any GUI or without it, as far as i can see.
Here is everything regarding rack tool changer on this website:
www.google.com/search?q=rack+toolchanger...sclient=gws-wiz-serp
Rack tool changers can be done purely in gcode, no hal, no complicated stuff, nothing else!
A while back i tested such a tool changer on a plasma machine that has a single tool, but the routines worked perfectly.
It also has nothing to do with the GUI being used, it works on any GUI or without it, as far as i can see.
Here is everything regarding rack tool changer on this website:
www.google.com/search?q=rack+toolchanger...sclient=gws-wiz-serp
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22 Nov 2023 16:56 #286232
by udoS
Replied by udoS on topic Probe Basic Rack based ATC
@tommylight
tommy, do you think there is anyone here who doesn't know how to google ' Linuxcnc rack-toolchanger '
Here is everything regarding rack tool changer on this website: What is ' this website '
Alone the fact that you get 3 pages af google answers doesn't mean there is something useful. !
@ rmu
Have you tested it ? sure NOT !
L.G. udoS
tommy, do you think there is anyone here who doesn't know how to google ' Linuxcnc rack-toolchanger '
Here is everything regarding rack tool changer on this website: What is ' this website '
Alone the fact that you get 3 pages af google answers doesn't mean there is something useful. !
@ rmu
Have you tested it ? sure NOT !
L.G. udoS
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22 Nov 2023 18:07 #286241
by tommylight
But i do know 99% do not know how to search for "rack tool changer" ONLY on this website, see below
Go read those.
M.F.G. Tom.
Replied by tommylight on topic Probe Basic Rack based ATC
No i do not.tommy, do you think there is anyone here who doesn't know how to google ' Linuxcnc rack-toolchanger '
But i do know 99% do not know how to search for "rack tool changer" ONLY on this website, see below
This website means ONLY www.linuxcnc.org and it's forum.Here is everything regarding rack tool changer on this website: What is ' this website '
There is plenty of useful stuff there and several working configs that you could have found instead of wasting time with this reply, that now wastes my time replying to it.Alone the fact that you get 3 pages af google answers doesn't mean there is something useful. !
Go read those.
M.F.G. Tom.
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22 Nov 2023 22:15 #286278
by rmu
Replied by rmu on topic Probe Basic Rack based ATC
that code is running a 3 ton industrial wood router (Biesse Rover) and does around 30-50 tool changes per hour.@tommylight
tommy, do you think there is anyone here who doesn't know how to google ' Linuxcnc rack-toolchanger '
Here is everything regarding rack tool changer on this website: What is ' this website '
Alone the fact that you get 3 pages af google answers doesn't mean there is something useful. !
@ rmu
Have you tested it ? sure NOT !
L.G. udoS
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24 Nov 2023 16:25 #286411
by udoS
Replied by udoS on topic Probe Basic Rack based ATC
@mru, and I found something usefull; Now making a little progress with LinuxCNC & EtherCAT;
Next ToolSensor to kill the time while waiting for the valves;
L.G. udoS
Next ToolSensor to kill the time while waiting for the valves;
L.G. udoS
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