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21 Jun 2026 10:04 #347183
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At a guess, something has changed slightly with a home switch and its left triggered. Try editing your HOME_OFFSET on joint 1 in your ini file and make it a bit bigger, maybe by 0.5 to 1.0 mm. This should move the sensor away a bit more after homing. Ohh and check for anything loose.
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21 Jun 2026 12:54 #347193
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Does the error trigger on pierce?
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21 Jun 2026 20:45 #347199
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Thanks guys,
Triggers most when the following criteria are met. move to location-touch off-pierce =ERROR.
Then I can often tell it to start again and it will pierce and continue on its way. However it will ERROR after it cuts a little.
Yes triggers on pierce.
I'm cutting in the middle of the table. The joint 1 sensor is a proximity sensor that is below the left side of the table.
Triggers most when the following criteria are met. move to location-touch off-pierce =ERROR.
Then I can often tell it to start again and it will pierce and continue on its way. However it will ERROR after it cuts a little.
Yes triggers on pierce.
I'm cutting in the middle of the table. The joint 1 sensor is a proximity sensor that is below the left side of the table.
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21 Jun 2026 21:30 #347200
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5% brownout due to inadequate wiring in the shop and the subsequent voltage drop when plasma goes from pilot to cut
Since it was OK and lately developed this, first thing to check is shop grounding, earth dries up and does not conduct properly or at all.
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Had the same issue a few years back at a client, i kept telling him the above, but he did reject that as reasonable so i asked him to wire machine ground to the water line as i recalled he has metal water pipes in the ground, never ever complained again.
The grounding rods are way to close to the surface if this happens to be the issue.
For the 5%, use a DVM with memory and check where does the voltage fall to when plasma triggers.
Might also be the power supply caps are drying up.
For interference, a scope would be nice, but you can use a DVM set to manual AC voltage range and measure between GND points and metal case and/or metal machine parts. If you get any reading above 5-10V, that is not OK so grounding and shielding must be corrected. Although i have seen machines with 60V still working properly, but i would not risk it, ever.
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95% interference/shielding/grounding issueYes triggers on pierce.
5% brownout due to inadequate wiring in the shop and the subsequent voltage drop when plasma goes from pilot to cut
Since it was OK and lately developed this, first thing to check is shop grounding, earth dries up and does not conduct properly or at all.
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Had the same issue a few years back at a client, i kept telling him the above, but he did reject that as reasonable so i asked him to wire machine ground to the water line as i recalled he has metal water pipes in the ground, never ever complained again.
The grounding rods are way to close to the surface if this happens to be the issue.
For the 5%, use a DVM with memory and check where does the voltage fall to when plasma triggers.
Might also be the power supply caps are drying up.
For interference, a scope would be nice, but you can use a DVM set to manual AC voltage range and measure between GND points and metal case and/or metal machine parts. If you get any reading above 5-10V, that is not OK so grounding and shielding must be corrected. Although i have seen machines with 60V still working properly, but i would not risk it, ever.
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21 Jun 2026 23:46 #347202
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Thanks Tommy,
Never had the machine grounded. Mostly because all my machines previously have been moveable due to my small shed.
I have installed an earth rod now and connected it to the machine. No change. we did also have rain yesterday so the ground is very moist.
I'll go through and try and check for voltage shortly. Digital Voltage Meter set to 0-20V to see if i can get any readings.
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Never had the machine grounded. Mostly because all my machines previously have been moveable due to my small shed.
I have installed an earth rod now and connected it to the machine. No change. we did also have rain yesterday so the ground is very moist.
I'll go through and try and check for voltage shortly. Digital Voltage Meter set to 0-20V to see if i can get any readings.
Cheers
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22 Jun 2026 05:25 #347211
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Couldn't find any spots showing voltage.
Ran new earth wires everywhere, from the gantry, torch holder, x axis motor mount, y axis motor mounts, table, water table.
No change, still getting errors when the torch begins a pierce.
Ran new earth wires everywhere, from the gantry, torch holder, x axis motor mount, y axis motor mounts, table, water table.
No change, still getting errors when the torch begins a pierce.
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22 Jun 2026 05:33 #347212
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What plasma cutter are you using these days?
Do you have an EMI filter on your mains inlet to the control box? Jaycar have them
Do you have an EMI filter on your mains inlet to the control box? Jaycar have them
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22 Jun 2026 08:17 #347214
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Still using the hypertherm XP45. it's been on it the entire time.
no EMI filter yet.
no EMI filter yet.
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22 Jun 2026 09:56 #347215
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OK, hold the EMI filter thought for now. When I had EMI issues, fitting one solved it.
Choose from here locally, but there are other IEC connectors with mains switch and fuse built in
www.jaycar.com.au/components-electromech...-emf-products/c/2GLC
But in your case what is odd is that its been trouble free for so long. When you say error, is it always a limit switch error or could it be the arcOK is failing?
Choose from here locally, but there are other IEC connectors with mains switch and fuse built in
www.jaycar.com.au/components-electromech...-emf-products/c/2GLC
But in your case what is odd is that its been trouble free for so long. When you say error, is it always a limit switch error or could it be the arcOK is failing?
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22 Jun 2026 10:57 #347217
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Always the 'joint 1 on limit switch error' or 'joint 0 on limit switch error'.
Mostly at pierce now, but has slowly been creeping in and would do it halfway through a cut. same error.
Mostly at pierce now, but has slowly been creeping in and would do it halfway through a cut. same error.
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