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01 Sep 2019 22:05 #143814
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01 Sep 2019 22:43 #143817
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02 Sep 2019 03:26 #143853
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Andy,
Sorry for the confusion, for clarity and not to muddy the waters anymore I have made my own post to continue my tuning endevor.
forum.linuxcnc.org/10-advanced-configura...ther-tc-225-retrofit
Sorry for the confusion, for clarity and not to muddy the waters anymore I have made my own post to continue my tuning endevor.
forum.linuxcnc.org/10-advanced-configura...ther-tc-225-retrofit
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09 Oct 2019 19:50 #147592
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I was never really satisfied with the tuning, so I re-visited it yesterday.
What I found is, if I reduce to P = 0.1, the movements are now as smooth as silk, leading me to believe that the PID is possibly done in the servo amps? To those who know more about this than I do, does this sound right? (I have attached the driver manual in case that sheds any light, for anyone who is THAT interested!)
Setting P = 0 causes a following error, so what would be the lowest I should set it to, or is 0.1 OK?
I've also tuned FF1 = 0.00727 and FF2 = 0.00001 to get a reasonably flat (albeit very noisy) halscope'd f-error.
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Recently, I found my X-axis was oscillating really badly when routing out complex shapes. Straight X and Y cuts were fine but diagonal was the worst, unless I really slowed down the feed.On my retrofit, I had a lot of trouble tuning following all the advice I had found because I had entered an arbitrary value for the acceleration parameter (way too high). It wasn't until I bumped it down to something more in line with what I had seen in others config files, that I could even start to tune my servos. My machine works fine now, but doesn't move as fast as it did before the retrofit, so I could go back and refine the tuning with higher accel params.!
I was never really satisfied with the tuning, so I re-visited it yesterday.
What I found is, if I reduce to P = 0.1, the movements are now as smooth as silk, leading me to believe that the PID is possibly done in the servo amps? To those who know more about this than I do, does this sound right? (I have attached the driver manual in case that sheds any light, for anyone who is THAT interested!)
Setting P = 0 causes a following error, so what would be the lowest I should set it to, or is 0.1 OK?
I've also tuned FF1 = 0.00727 and FF2 = 0.00001 to get a reasonably flat (albeit very noisy) halscope'd f-error.
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09 Oct 2019 20:21 #147594
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If it works at 0.1, leave it at that.
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14 Nov 2020 09:38 #189308
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I am trying to tune servo loop based on this tutorial. What I see during the process is that as I jog the motor and release the arrow button, motor should decelerate and stop. At the moment of key release there is a sudden drop in velocity, which then resumes and after that the motor stops, see attached picture. Is that related to PID tuning or is that a lag in GUI or something similar?
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14 Nov 2020 10:11 #189314
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Are you tuning the old Yaskawa drives with encoder feedback from the drives to 7i77? Those should be very easy to tune, just set the P value till the motors start to vibrate then lower it a bit so there is no or very litle vibration, then add FF1 a bit. Leave everything else at 0 excpet the deadband.
That should be it, it literarly took 5 minutes to tune all 3 axis last time i used them.
Make sure you have the drive enable wired to LinuxCNC and working correctly before everything else.
That should be it, it literarly took 5 minutes to tune all 3 axis last time i used them.
Make sure you have the drive enable wired to LinuxCNC and working correctly before everything else.
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14 Nov 2020 11:57 #189320
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I feel like that all the time.....Time to retire I think.
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I feel like that all the time.....Time to retire I think.
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14 Nov 2020 13:26 #189330
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I have 7i48 for servo control, but other than that - yes, it was pretty easy to tune motor for X axis. The table is too short to safely jog it at 45m/min, while looking at PC screen... Now I have to sort out missing encoder signal from Y motor.
BTW can you share some suggestions for controlling the VFD? At least some hints about wiring and pinout on VFD control signal terminal?
Replied by viesturs.lacis on topic Servo Wiring and Tuning detailed How To example Mesa 7i77.
Are you tuning the old Yaskawa drives with encoder feedback from the drives to 7i77? Those should be very easy to tune, just set the P value till the motors start to vibrate then lower it a bit so there is no or very litle vibration, then add FF1 a bit. Leave everything else at 0 excpet the deadband.
That should be it, it literarly took 5 minutes to tune all 3 axis last time i used them.
Make sure you have the drive enable wired to LinuxCNC and working correctly before everything else.
I have 7i48 for servo control, but other than that - yes, it was pretty easy to tune motor for X axis. The table is too short to safely jog it at 45m/min, while looking at PC screen... Now I have to sort out missing encoder signal from Y motor.
BTW can you share some suggestions for controlling the VFD? At least some hints about wiring and pinout on VFD control signal terminal?
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14 Nov 2020 18:23 #189358
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Vhat VFD? Any schematics ?BTW can you share some suggestions for controlling the VFD? At least some hints about wiring and pinout on VFD control signal terminal?
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