Orient component revised
01 Feb 2020 07:22 #156286
by nkp
Replied by nkp on topic Orient component
/* sudo halcompile --install shome.comp */
component shome "Provides a PID command input used for spindle homing";
pin out bit homing ;
pin out bit homed ;
pin in bit enable ;
pin io bit index_enable ;
pin out float command ;
pin in float velocity = 100 ;
variable int last_enable = 0;
option fp yes;
function _ "Spindle homing helper. Sets the encoder index-enable and waits for the falling of this signal.";
author "Diego Weizel";
description "";
license "GPL";
;;
FUNCTION(_) {
if (enable) {
if (enable ^ last_enable) { // positive edge on enable
homed = 0;
homing = 1;
index_enable=1;
command=velocity;
}
if (homing && !index_enable) { // falling edge on enable
homed = 1;
homing = 0;
command=0;
}
}
else
{
homed = 0;
homing = 0;
command=0;
}
last_enable = enable;
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01 Feb 2020 07:27 - 01 Feb 2020 07:45 #156287
by nkp
Replied by nkp on topic Orient component
loadrt orient
addf orient.0 servo-thread
loadrt mux2 count=2
addf mux2.0 servo-thread
addf mux2.1 servo-thread
loadrt shome
addf shome.0 servo-thread
loadrt near count=2
addf near.0 servo-thread
addf near.1 servo-thread
loadrt not count=1
addf not.0 servo-thread
# reley 5
setp near.1.in1 0.0
net spindle-cmd near.1.in2
net reley-5 near.1.out not.0.in
net reley not.0.out hm2_7i92.0.7i77.0.0.output-01
#-spindle-at-speed
net spindle-vel-cmd => near.0.in1
net spindle-vel => near.0.in2
# 10%
setp near.0.scale 1.1
loadrt or2 count=2
addf or2.0 servo-thread #
addf or2.1 servo-thread
net or2-0-in0 or2.0.in0 <= near.0.out
net orient-mode or2.0.in1
#net spindle-at-speed motion.spindle-at-speed or2.0.out
setp motion.spindle-at-speed 1
# encoder feedback
setp hm2_7i92.0.encoder.05.counter-mode 0
setp hm2_7i92.0.encoder.05.filter 1
setp hm2_7i92.0.encoder.05.index-invert 0
setp hm2_7i92.0.encoder.05.index-mask 0
setp hm2_7i92.0.encoder.05.index-mask-invert 0
setp hm2_7i92.0.encoder.05.scale 4096
# spindle HOME
net spindle-index shome.0.index-enable hm2_7i92.0.encoder.05.index-enable
# PWM Generator signals/setup
setp hm2_7i92.0.7i77.0.1.analogout5-scalemax 1500
setp hm2_7i92.0.7i77.0.1.analogout5-minlim -1500
setp hm2_7i92.0.7i77.0.1.analogout5-maxlim 1500
# spindle enable
setp hm2_7i92.0.7i77.0.1.spinena 1
##################################################
#loadrt pid (main.hal)
addf pid.vel.do-pid-calcs servo-thread # Velocity
addf pid.pos.do-pid-calcs servo-thread # Position
net spindle-pos pid.pos.feedback orient.0.position
net shome-enable0 axis.2.homed classicladder.0.in-00
net shome-enable1 shome.0.enable classicladder.0.out-00
net mux1in0 mux2.1.in0 pid.vel.output
net mux1in1 mux2.1.in1 shome.0.command
net mux1sel mux2.1.sel shome.0.homing
setp shome.0.velocity -3
net spindle-vel pid.vel.feedback hm2_7i92.0.encoder.05.velocity
net spindle-vel-cmd motion.spindle-speed-out pid.vel.command
net spindle-vel-pid mux2.1.out mux2.0.in0
net spindle-pos pid.pos.feedback orient.0.position hm2_7i92.0.encoder.05.position
net spindle-pos-cmd orient.0.command pid.pos.command
net spindle-angle motion.spindle-orient-angle orient.0.angle
net spindle-pos-pid pid.pos.output mux2.0.in1
# this switches modes
net orient-mode motion.spindle-orient orient.0.enable pid.pos.enable mux2.0.sel
net velocity-mode motion.spindle-on pid.vel.enable
setp scale.0.gain -1
##+++++++++++
loadrt limit2
addf limit2.0 servo-thread
setp limit2.0.maxv 1000
net spindle-cmd mux2.0.out => scale.0.in
net scaleout scale.0.out hm2_7i92.0.7i77.0.1.analogout5
#net spindle-ramped <= limit2.0.out => hm2_7i92.0.7i77.0.1.analogout5
# Tune the PID from the INI values
setp pid.vel.Pgain [SPINDLE]PGAIN_V
setp pid.vel.Igain [SPINDLE]IGAIN_V
setp pid.vel.Dgain [SPINDLE]DGAIN_V
setp pid.vel.FF0 [SPINDLE]FF0_V
setp pid.vel.FF1 [SPINDLE]FF1_V
setp pid.pos.Pgain [SPINDLE]PGAIN_P
setp pid.pos.Igain [SPINDLE]IGAIN_P
setp pid.pos.Dgain [SPINDLE]DGAIN_P
setp pid.pos.FF0 [SPINDLE]FF0_P
setp pid.pos.FF1 [SPINDLE]FF1_P
Last edit: 01 Feb 2020 07:45 by nkp.
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01 Feb 2020 07:32 #156288
by nkp
Replied by nkp on topic Orient component
this hal file is still being edited, inaccuracies may be present
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01 Feb 2020 07:47 #156290
by nkp
Replied by nkp on topic Orient component
INI:
[SPINDLE]
PGAIN_V = 0
IGAIN_V = 0
DGAIN_V = 0
FF0_V = 1
FF1_V = 0
PGAIN_P = 150
IGAIN_P = 1
DGAIN_P = 0
FF0_P = 0
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03 Feb 2020 02:35 - 06 Feb 2020 11:24 #156412
by alkabal
Replied by alkabal on topic Orient component
Hi
Regarding to your component i have try to add something similar.
Attached is the revision with the spindle home after machine homing included.
HAL patrs need to add a or2 component for pid enable.
In my opinion this is not the cleanest way for homing the spindle because motion or halui do no know what append.
I think is better to think about adding this feature in motion and or halui.
Edit : homing does not work correctly
Regarding to your component i have try to add something similar.
Attached is the revision with the spindle home after machine homing included.
HAL patrs need to add a or2 component for pid enable.
#####################################################################
# Spindle orient mode
#####################################################################
loadrt orientv4 names=orient.orient-spindle
loadrt pid names=pid.orient-spindle
loadrt or2 names=or2.orient-spindle-pid-ena
addf orient.orient-spindle servo-thread
addf pid.orient-spindle.do-pid-calcs servo-thread
addf or2.orient-spindle-pid-ena servo-thread
# setup Orient Spindle PID
setp pid.orient-spindle.Pgain [ORIENT]P
setp pid.orient-spindle.Igain [ORIENT]I
setp pid.orient-spindle.Dgain [ORIENT]D
setp pid.orient-spindle.FF0 [ORIENT]FF0
setp pid.orient-spindle.FF1 [ORIENT]FF1
setp pid.orient-spindle.FF2 [ORIENT]FF2
setp pid.orient-spindle.bias [ORIENT]BIAS
setp pid.orient-spindle.deadband [ORIENT]DEADBAND
setp pid.orient-spindle.maxerror [ORIENT]MAX_ERROR
setp pid.orient-spindle.maxerrorI [ORIENT]MAX_ERROR_I
setp pid.orient-spindle.maxoutput [ORIENT]MAX_OUTPUT
setp orient.orient-spindle.vel-speed [ORIENT]VEL_SPEED
setp orient.orient-spindle.tolerance [ORIENT]AT_ANGLE_TOL
# Set asked mode from M19 P0/1/2
net spindle-orient-mode <= motion.spindle-orient-mode
net spindle-orient-mode => orient.orient-spindle.mode
# pid output mux with regular spindle modul
net DAC-ctrl-out-orient <= pid.orient-spindle.output
net DAC-ctrl-out-orient => orient.orient-spindle.cmd-orient
net DAC-ctrl-out-velocity => orient.orient-spindle.cmd-velocity
net DAC-computed-ctrl-out <= orient.orient-spindle.cmd-out
net DAC-computed-ctrl-out => hpg.pwmgen.00.out.00.value
# enable out for controler from regular spindle or orient mode
net spindle-enable => orient.orient-spindle.ena-velocity
net spindle-orient-enable-out <= orient.orient-spindle.ena-out
net spindle-orient-enable-out => fur.do-6 # enable output for VFD muxed with regular spindle modul
# encoder connections index + feedback
net spindle-index-enable => pid.orient-spindle.index-enable # need investigation
net spindle-pos => orient.orient-spindle.position
net spindle-pos-deg <= orient.orient-spindle.scaled-angle-out
# Spindle orient control signals
net spindle-orient-enable <= motion.spindle-orient
net spindle-orient-enable => orient.orient-spindle.enable
net spindle-orient-enable => or2.orient-spindle-pid-ena.in0
net spindle-orient-home-enable <= orient.orient-spindle.homing
net spindle-orient-home-enable => or2.orient-spindle-pid-ena.in1
net spindle-orient-or2home-ena <= or2.orient-spindle-pid-ena.out
net spindle-orient-or2home-ena => pid.orient-spindle.enable
net spindle-index-enable <=> orient.orient-spindle.index-enable
net machinehomed <= axis.0.homed
net machinehomed => orient.orient-spindle.machine-is-homed
# Is oriented near signal + link position asked to component
net spindle-orient-degree-cmd <= motion.spindle-orient-angle
net spindle-orient-degree-cmd => orient.orient-spindle.angle
net spindle-is-oriented <= orient.orient-spindle.is-oriented
net spindle-is-oriented => motion.spindle-is-oriented
## Command to pid from component by velocity and velocity feedback
net spindle-orient-vel <= orient.orient-spindle.command
net spindle-orient-vel => pid.orient-spindle.command
net spindle-vel-fb-rps => pid.orient-spindle.feedbackIn my opinion this is not the cleanest way for homing the spindle because motion or halui do no know what append.
I think is better to think about adding this feature in motion and or halui.
Edit : homing does not work correctly
Last edit: 06 Feb 2020 11:24 by alkabal.
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11 Feb 2020 14:51 #157063
by andypugh
Actually, it was Michael Haberler: linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/man/man9/orient.9.html
Part of the reason for adding the multi-spindle changes (actually the main reason) is that I wanted to add spindles to the homing sequence.
But I simply have not done that yet.
If anyone fancies it, I imagine sections in the INI
[SPINDLE_0]
HOME_SEQUENCE 4
HOME_VELOCITY 10
And then the system sets spindle index-enable, rotates at the given speed, then stops the spindle when the index resets.
Replied by andypugh on topic Orient component
You can speak here, that is OK, but you might have to wait till Andy gets to read this as he is the original programmer of the orient component.
Actually, it was Michael Haberler: linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/man/man9/orient.9.html
Part of the reason for adding the multi-spindle changes (actually the main reason) is that I wanted to add spindles to the homing sequence.
But I simply have not done that yet.
If anyone fancies it, I imagine sections in the INI
[SPINDLE_0]
HOME_SEQUENCE 4
HOME_VELOCITY 10
And then the system sets spindle index-enable, rotates at the given speed, then stops the spindle when the index resets.
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11 Feb 2020 16:06 #157074
by bbsr_5a
Replied by bbsr_5a on topic Orient component
hi can i use this component also for a Racktoolchanger with steppers
or is it fixed on 360 deg Rotation axis only
or is it fixed on 360 deg Rotation axis only
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11 Feb 2020 16:09 #157075
by andypugh
I am not sure what question you are asking, but you want to orient a spindle for a rack toolchanger then "orient" would be appropriate.
Replied by andypugh on topic Orient component
hi can i use this component also for a Racktoolchanger with steppers
or is it fixed on 360 deg Rotation axis only
I am not sure what question you are asking, but you want to orient a spindle for a rack toolchanger then "orient" would be appropriate.
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11 Feb 2020 17:34 #157082
by alkabal
Replied by alkabal on topic Orient component
Hi
Without the use of ini file i have try to add spindle homing immediatly after axis.0.homed = 1
But i have many trouble understanding what append with the spindle index-enable status and the checking process.
You suggest to check elsewhere in the linuxcnc code regarding to the homing sequence ?
Can i ask what do you think about :
1 - including some new pin for more easy setup in the actual component
2 - changing the command logic like i try to do with orientv4
Br
Without the use of ini file i have try to add spindle homing immediatly after axis.0.homed = 1
But i have many trouble understanding what append with the spindle index-enable status and the checking process.
You suggest to check elsewhere in the linuxcnc code regarding to the homing sequence ?
Can i ask what do you think about :
1 - including some new pin for more easy setup in the actual component
2 - changing the command logic like i try to do with orientv4
Br
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26 Feb 2020 13:54 #158538
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Orient component
Sorry, I have been away from the forums for a while.
If you can be sure that the spindle will always turn past the index before the first tool change, then you could simply
sets spindle-index-enable 1
in the HAL file. (but spindle-index-enable should be replaced by whatever the signal that is attached to your spindle index really is called in your config)
A custom HAL component that the spindle speed commands pass through could work. It would also need a HAL pin to toggle and sense the index-enable.
ie, it sees asis.N.home go true, it over-rides the pass-through spindle commands to a low speed and sets the spindle-index-enable. It then returns to passive pass-through mode when the index-enable goes false.
If you can be sure that the spindle will always turn past the index before the first tool change, then you could simply
sets spindle-index-enable 1
in the HAL file. (but spindle-index-enable should be replaced by whatever the signal that is attached to your spindle index really is called in your config)
A custom HAL component that the spindle speed commands pass through could work. It would also need a HAL pin to toggle and sense the index-enable.
ie, it sees asis.N.home go true, it over-rides the pass-through spindle commands to a low speed and sets the spindle-index-enable. It then returns to passive pass-through mode when the index-enable goes false.
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