Retrofitting a 1986 Maho MH400E

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09 Oct 2017 12:16 - 09 Oct 2017 15:09 #100118 by RotarySMP
Hi John,

You are making good progress on that ladder logic. Thanks for sharing it. I need to power up the PC to install the touch screen drivers, and will try and test that ladder at the same time.

Yesterday I pulled the MAHO control panel.






The replacement will be something like this...
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09 Oct 2017 17:58 #100120 by drimaropoylos
Cool, nice and simple. The 3 futures down right are usb?
John

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09 Oct 2017 18:10 #100121 by drimaropoylos

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09 Oct 2017 19:16 - 09 Oct 2017 19:18 #100124 by RotarySMP
Yes three USB ports. My thinking was one for the USB stick to transfer files. One for the USB keyboard which I will use for setting up, but hopefully not need for machining, and one for the wireless data for those time when I need to connect to the internet, such as doing updates. I figured when doing an update, I'll need the keyboard, and possibly have a reason to us a USB memory stick as well.

I have ordered a Logilink UA14 powered USB hub, which will go under the control panel. At 5m cable length this will be at the extreme of range for the USB standard, and powered hubs are supposed to help. The fourth port on that hub will be for the touch screen interface.

Abel cheated, as he used a Heidenhain keyboard panel. I dont like the idea of a touch pad mounted vertically. I can't see that being comfortable to use. The Gmoccapy touch screen interface sure simplifies the interface. I thought about doing buttons for cycle start, coolant etc, but cycle start/pause etc end up on a soft key anyway.

I might still add an encoder for feedoverride.

A follow on project will be a pendant.
Mark
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10 Oct 2017 03:19 - 10 Oct 2017 04:37 #100132 by drimaropoylos
An arrangement like this would be much better than vertical.
John
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10 Oct 2017 03:31 #100133 by drimaropoylos
A company with Water jet cutter or laser cut can make the panel frame and holes for the buttons, but I can’t find elegant buttons with slim mounting. Except button used on elevators, but they are very expensive. Any suggestions.
John

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10 Oct 2017 06:23 - 10 Oct 2017 06:48 #100135 by RotarySMP
I am planning to 3D print the buttons, and have them act on print mount tactile switches. Haven't finished the design yet, as I need the switches to measure.

I could see the potential to then mill a set of metal buttons once the machine is up and running.

www.ebay.at/itm/20-Yellow-TASTSCHALTER-1...p2060353.m1438.l2649

I have a friend in Bratislava who can get parts lasered very inexpensively. I have have used their service a couple of times on mild steel parts, and was very stisfied. The front panel will be lasered in 2mm stainless. I haven't drawn the support structure yet, but need to get it done, as he want to order some parts this week.

I just realised I put one too many buttons down the side. Gmoccapy lower RH button is a bottom button, not side. You dont need two soft keys for the same location.

I also thought about integrating an industrial keyboard, but unless you will do a lot of conversational programming, I didn't see much need, due to the touch screen interface. I have been using one of these Logitech K400 USB wireless keyboards, and it works perfectly with linux.
www.logitech.com/en-us/product/wireless-touch-keyboard-k400r
This will get plenty of use during the initial set up and testing phase, but hopefully be unneeded once the conversion is complete. They cost next to nothing, so I don't really care if it needs replacing.
Mark
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10 Oct 2017 10:18 - 10 Oct 2017 10:24 #100138 by drimaropoylos
If you can laser cut cheap, you can make a pc box like this easily.

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10 Oct 2017 15:02 #100146 by RotarySMP
Nice workmanship there John.

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10 Oct 2017 16:01 - 10 Oct 2017 16:01 #100152 by drimaropoylos
It is not mine, it is a friend of mine. He is designer in a cnc company www.vetasa.gr/en/
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