Current turning capabilities status
10 Feb 2013 19:47 #29856
by emcPT
From the inverter manual, using a train pulse, so this may act like a servo. For example to maintain a determined speed I would have to continue to feed a position constantly far away from the current position. Does Linuxcnc have this built in? This is very similar to have a servo motor acting as a spindle motor.
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Replied by emcPT on topic Current turning capabilities status
How does the drive accept position information when it has encoder feedback?
From the inverter manual, using a train pulse, so this may act like a servo. For example to maintain a determined speed I would have to continue to feed a position constantly far away from the current position. Does Linuxcnc have this built in? This is very similar to have a servo motor acting as a spindle motor.
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11 Feb 2013 02:10 #29867
by BigJohnT
the Add File function is broken until we can get Kunea and Joomula updated...
John
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(I was unable to attach a file)
the Add File function is broken until we can get Kunea and Joomula updated...
John
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11 Feb 2013 02:15 - 11 Feb 2013 02:21 #29869
by andypugh
(It's not a LinuxCNC problem, but you would need an unusual combination of interface hardware)
I would suggest not getting the in-drive position control hardware yet, and seeing how LinuxCNC-only control works first.
Replied by andypugh on topic Current turning capabilities status
Yes, it can be done, but possibly not easily in combination with analogue voltage control for the axis servos.From the inverter manual, using a train pulse, so this may act like a servo. For example to maintain a determined speed I would have to continue to feed a position constantly far away from the current position. Does Linuxcnc have this built in?
(It's not a LinuxCNC problem, but you would need an unusual combination of interface hardware)
I would suggest not getting the in-drive position control hardware yet, and seeing how LinuxCNC-only control works first.
Last edit: 11 Feb 2013 02:21 by andypugh.
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11 Feb 2013 03:56 #29871
by emcPT
Replied by emcPT on topic Current turning capabilities status
Ok. I will follow your recommendation and wait for the VFD to arrive and set up linuxcnc and the mesa hardware to control only the spindle with the encoder connected directly to the mesa cards.
I will need some guidance then, but lets see what can I achieve looking on the documentation. People on my company don't look to this project as something that can be done, but I convinced my "boss" to let me try and to give me some € to spend. Lets see.
I will need some guidance then, but lets see what can I achieve looking on the documentation. People on my company don't look to this project as something that can be done, but I convinced my "boss" to let me try and to give me some € to spend. Lets see.
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11 Feb 2013 05:44 #29876
by andypugh
I isn't going to be simple, but you will learn a lot on the way.
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They are wrong, you are rightPeople on my company don't look to this project as something that can be done, but I convinced my "boss" to let me try and to give me some € to spend. Lets see.
I isn't going to be simple, but you will learn a lot on the way.
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16 Feb 2013 03:33 #30143
by emcPT
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Ok, I have set a PC with a D2700 and a mesa card 5i20.
I have also run pncconfig and set up things to the best of my knowledge. I did not set up and I/O signals except the ones for the servos (X,Z,A and spindle).
I do not have any servo or any I/O signals hardwired.
Now when starting linuxcnc it will not start and the relevant (the first error) debug message is:
Can not find -sec MOT -var MOT -num 1
and a few more others, all that start with "Can not find ..."
This is probably due to a bad configuration on the pncconfig, but this is almost alien language.
My question for today would be what would be the most "clean" config that I can make just to have a spindle, because I would like to start only by having a spindle working.
A few pictures of the mesa hardware installed are attached. There was suppose to be any leds on the 7i37 ?
I have also run pncconfig and set up things to the best of my knowledge. I did not set up and I/O signals except the ones for the servos (X,Z,A and spindle).
I do not have any servo or any I/O signals hardwired.
Now when starting linuxcnc it will not start and the relevant (the first error) debug message is:
Can not find -sec MOT -var MOT -num 1
and a few more others, all that start with "Can not find ..."
This is probably due to a bad configuration on the pncconfig, but this is almost alien language.
My question for today would be what would be the most "clean" config that I can make just to have a spindle, because I would like to start only by having a spindle working.
A few pictures of the mesa hardware installed are attached. There was suppose to be any leds on the 7i37 ?
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16 Feb 2013 03:39 #30144
by andypugh
Can you post the HAL file and the error log (dmesg)
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What can't it find? That's the critical bitCan not find -sec MOT -var MOT -num 1
and a few more others, all that start with "Can not find …
Can you post the HAL file and the error log (dmesg)
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16 Feb 2013 03:40 #30145
by PCW
Replied by PCW on topic Current turning capabilities status
There are no LEDS on the 7I37
You will probably have to post the full error message (and maybe dmesg log) to
debug this
You will probably have to post the full error message (and maybe dmesg log) to
debug this
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16 Feb 2013 03:45 #30146
by BigJohnT
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Can you attach the entire error message?
John
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16 Feb 2013 04:07 - 16 Feb 2013 04:13 #30149
by PCW
Replied by PCW on topic Current turning capabilities status
Often everything you need to know is in the kernel messages. Heres how to capture:
in a terminal window type:
sudo dmesg --clear
then start linuxcnc
when linuxcnc aborts, type
dmesg > errorlog.txt
and upload errorlog.txt to the forum
in a terminal window type:
sudo dmesg --clear
then start linuxcnc
when linuxcnc aborts, type
dmesg > errorlog.txt
and upload errorlog.txt to the forum
Last edit: 16 Feb 2013 04:13 by PCW.
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