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12 years 6 months ago #45610 by mblaszkiewicz
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As soon as I get the machine in the house I will get a scope on the z axis. A had to remove the servo motor do it would fit mangy doors. What type of signal will I be looking for on the scope ??

And I will post pictures when I test it because everyone hates pictures. Also the revolvers all work. The machine is on full functioning condition.

I'm not too worried about the cost of the cards. Ease of insulation is my first priority and I really would like the mpg.

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12 years 6 months ago #45612 by emcPT
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You say that the machine is on full working condition?
Stop. Rethink, adapt yourself to the existing control, learn with it.
If you cannot do what you want with it think on retrofit. This is my opinion.

The signals that you are looking:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotary_encoder
on the section Incremental Rotary encoder

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12 years 6 months ago #45613 by andypugh
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emcPT wrote: The 7i73 is harder to connect. The use of the IDC connectors make the connections more difficult and less user friendly.

Good point. It takes up less space, but that is more relevant in a hand-held pendant than a machine console.
Matrix-wiring for the switches is something of an advantage.
For connecting to the pin-headers I use some discrete-wire connectors that allow you to re-arrange the wires if needed. I think they are called the "M20" series:
uk.rs-online.com/web/p/pcb-connector-housings/6812871/
(the picture shows a 2x2 but that part number is a 10x2)
I mention this only for future reference.

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12 years 6 months ago #45614 by andypugh
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emcPT wrote: Swapping your resolvers for compatible encoders should also not be a large issue if your current resolvers do not work.

The drives probably only work with resolvers though, so that swap would need new drives.

I think your advice elsewhere was good. Get the machine running with the existing control, use it with the existing control, and then decide if it needs a controller swap.

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12 years 6 months ago #45616 by emcPT
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andypugh wrote: The drives probably only work with resolvers though, so that swap would need new drives.


Yes, must probably the drives will only work with resolvers. Andy is correct, so having to change the current resolvers for encoders may be a large step.

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12 years 6 months ago #45618 by JR1050
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Emcpt makes several good points. The first being if the machine works,at least for now, learn the original control. If nothing else you will at least get a chance to understand how the mechanisms of the machine actually operate. The chances of you ending up with a nighmare at this point are looking good. It is easy to tear the machine apart, it is not so.easy to get it all working again.


Second, the 7i84 is much easier to use for building a full size pendent(if you are not decoding a keyboard), due to it having terminal blocks. In addition, you do have to program your own buttons and knobs.

If the machine works, use it to make money, practice getting a small project working,learn how the machine actually works and when the time comes to actually do the machine, you will ahead of the game. For what it is worth....

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