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10 May 2018 14:17 #110514 by tjd
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Hi all,
Still floundering with the PID tuning...
Please find attached my .ini file and screenshot of results for X axis.
5i25 + 7i77

I've gotten the following error (blue trace) as flat as I can get it with the values indicated for PID etc. On the tuning tutorial I mentioned above, at 5m/div their line was flat and I can't get close to it. Any suggestions...??
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10 May 2018 14:26 - 10 May 2018 14:27 #110516 by PCW
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The tutorial plot is probably in inches, since you are in mm, your errors will appear 25.4x larger
(5m/div is a 5 milli-millimeter/div or 5u per division)
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10 May 2018 14:33 #110518 by tjd
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On their tutorial...
gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/tuning/servo.html
their halscope is also reading 5m/div, how do I work out is they are using inches?

Assuming that they are using inches, does this mean that my following error is acceptable? having never tuned a servo before I'm unsure as to what level of error to expect.

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10 May 2018 14:54 #110520 by PCW
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There's no direct way to tell but the velocity is a big hint...

( JTs tutorial shows a velocity of 1 and 1 mm/sec is not
reasonable as a jog speed for most machines but 1 inch/sec is)

I would say your tuning is fine unless you have an ultra precise machine

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10 May 2018 15:00 #110521 by tjd
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Great - and thanks for the prompt replies!

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10 May 2018 21:43 #110544 by emcPT
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My team also did a complete guide (includes wiring, instalation, ... all with 5i25+7i77) here:

www.wiki.eusurplus.com/index.php?title=Category:Tuning

After the center of the page is the linuxcnc part. Maybe it can help you.

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07 Jun 2018 14:54 #111886 by tjd
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Made quite a bit of progress since my last post. Now have all 3 axis moving. X axis tuned pretty well. Limit switches and encoders all working as they should.
But I'm struggling with homing.
I don't have a separate homing switch for any axis so I've configured (PNCconf) the 7i77 to share X min Limit with Home, Y min limit with home and X max limit with home.
Running through the 'Home All' on the Axis GUI it keeps throwing up an error that says the axis (Z) is on the limit switch, even though I have (hopefully) configured it to ignore limit switches during homing.
Screen Shot and ini fill attached.

As always, all help gratefully received.
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07 Jun 2018 15:06 #111888 by tjd
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In homing section of documentation (page 319/711 - HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS) it says to set this to YES if you dont have a separate homing switch. It says to 'case connect the limit signal to the home switch input in HAL'. Can anyone explain what that actually means please??

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07 Jun 2018 15:38 #111890 by andypugh
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It says to 'case connect the limit signal to the home switch input in HAL'. Can anyone explain what that actually means please??


Which version of the docs are you looking in?

Currently I see
linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/config/ini-co...s__lt_num_gt_section

And that does not contain the phrase you quoted.

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07 Jun 2018 19:30 #111926 by tjd
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I got the info from the pdf here:
linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/pdf/LinuxCNC_Documentation.pdf

LinuxCNC V2.7.13-4-gd440e5b, 2018-05-11

319/711 (actual pdf page353)

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