LinuxCNC Discord? (for chat & support)
08 Nov 2020 07:08 #188651
by Aciera
Ok, I get that it's a real time chat and it does work well for that but as a replacement for this forum I think it falls very much short of the format we have here. I can't comment on moderating as I don't have experience with that but as a regular user trying to get and also give support I don't share your enthusiasm.
IMHO real-time chat is fine for smaller groups, say for the members of the development team or for communicating feedback to a few recipients like in online courses. In a setting where you have dozens or more users interacting with eachother its just a mess.
Of course it's a free world and everbody can set up their own thing for sharing knowledge on the internet and there have been all sorts of accounts opened on social media in the name of supporting LinuxCNC but I have yet to see one that works as well as this forum for actually getting and giving support.
Replied by Aciera on topic LinuxCNC Discord? (for chat & support)
I'd love it if we moved this forum to Discourse, which is much nicer forum software.
Ok, I get that it's a real time chat and it does work well for that but as a replacement for this forum I think it falls very much short of the format we have here. I can't comment on moderating as I don't have experience with that but as a regular user trying to get and also give support I don't share your enthusiasm.
IMHO real-time chat is fine for smaller groups, say for the members of the development team or for communicating feedback to a few recipients like in online courses. In a setting where you have dozens or more users interacting with eachother its just a mess.
Of course it's a free world and everbody can set up their own thing for sharing knowledge on the internet and there have been all sorts of accounts opened on social media in the name of supporting LinuxCNC but I have yet to see one that works as well as this forum for actually getting and giving support.
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08 Nov 2020 07:26 #188652
by JetForMe
Replied by JetForMe on topic LinuxCNC Discord? (for chat & support)
Oh, I don't think it should replace the forum at all! Not sure if that's what the OP intended. It should complement it.
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08 Nov 2020 09:40 #188657
by Aciera
Well I misunderstood you then because to me this implied a replacement.
Anyway, at the end of the day it comes down to what some of the long time support givers have already stated. The best place to look for help is where you have the best chance of getting an answer.
Now, one can certainly open new channels and hope that helpful users will actually come and frequently check for questions to try and answer them.
Replied by Aciera on topic LinuxCNC Discord? (for chat & support)
I'd love it if we moved this forum to Discourse, which is much nicer forum software.
Well I misunderstood you then because to me this implied a replacement.
Anyway, at the end of the day it comes down to what some of the long time support givers have already stated. The best place to look for help is where you have the best chance of getting an answer.
Now, one can certainly open new channels and hope that helpful users will actually come and frequently check for questions to try and answer them.
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19 Nov 2020 16:32 - 19 Nov 2020 16:42 #189790
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Just wanted to give an update on the status of the LinuxCNC Discord group and my thoughts on how it compliments both this forum and the IRC channel, they can all live in harmony.
Discord is not a replacement for this forum. Even though the technology is essentially a combination of IRC & Skype our community Discord server is not intended as a replacement for the LinuxCNC IRC. It is common in open source projects for serious dev work to occur on a separate server from community chat so that developers don't have to field the normal newbie questions and day to day banter. Community chat handles that. Discord in our context is LinuxCNC community chat. It now has 221 members and is quite active.
Discourse is a forum replacement which is not Discord. This thread is not about Discourse.
The future of the LinuxCNC IRC channel is not being questioned by me anymore. I believe the developers should work wherever they feel most comfortable.
Link to the Discord server in question: discord.gg/X3zKzhc
Discord is not a replacement for this forum. Even though the technology is essentially a combination of IRC & Skype our community Discord server is not intended as a replacement for the LinuxCNC IRC. It is common in open source projects for serious dev work to occur on a separate server from community chat so that developers don't have to field the normal newbie questions and day to day banter. Community chat handles that. Discord in our context is LinuxCNC community chat. It now has 221 members and is quite active.
Discourse is a forum replacement which is not Discord. This thread is not about Discourse.
The future of the LinuxCNC IRC channel is not being questioned by me anymore. I believe the developers should work wherever they feel most comfortable.
Link to the Discord server in question: discord.gg/X3zKzhc
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19 Nov 2020 17:49 #189797
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Who owns discord ?
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19 Nov 2020 22:55 - 19 Nov 2020 23:02 #189834
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Replied by lukepighetti on topic LinuxCNC Discord? (for chat & support)
I'm the "server owner." "Server" in Discord parlance is a misnomer, it's more like a chat group. "Owner" is also a misnomer, because Discord hosts everything for free and that will always be the case.
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20 Nov 2020 06:21 - 20 Nov 2020 06:30 #189868
by Aciera
Thanks for that note as I had totally missed that the discussion had changed from Discord to Discourse.
Sloppy reading on my part.
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I think the question was who owns the domain.
Replied by Aciera on topic LinuxCNC Discord? (for chat & support)
Discourse is a forum replacement which is not Discord. This thread is not about Discourse.
Thanks for that note as I had totally missed that the discussion had changed from Discord to Discourse.
Sloppy reading on my part.
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I think the question was who owns the domain.
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20 Nov 2020 09:53 #189883
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Dumb f@#$ , who are they gona profit from if they kill the population ???
Replied by tommylight on topic LinuxCNC Discord? (for chat & support)
It's more about who owns the information, read somewhere it is a chinese company, i absolutely and utterly refrain from giving such countries any info, just take a look at what they did with this pandemic, they will risk 7 billion people just to profit.
I think the question was who owns the domain.
Dumb f@#$ , who are they gona profit from if they kill the population ???
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20 Nov 2020 15:33 - 20 Nov 2020 15:37 #189893
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Discord is based in San Fransisco. They are monetized through premium accounts. Investor info can be found here. craft.co/discord I have nothing to say about China because it's well outside the scope of this thread, but I have no reason to believe that Discord is anything other than a western owned, operated, and funded company.
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20 Nov 2020 18:13 #189905
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Oh goodie, had a look and found why they peddle so hard, have a look from their website:
They sell data.
So the statement "They are monetized through premium accounts" just sunk. Quick, call Jacques Cousteau ... oh he dead !
They sell data.
So the statement "They are monetized through premium accounts" just sunk. Quick, call Jacques Cousteau ... oh he dead !
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