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02 Sep 2020 14:21 - 04 Sep 2020 13:52 #180437 by NEMARIAZ
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hi
I need some guidance on identifying the motor in this machine.

manual gives below information

it doesn't cover serial number of this motor , esp encoder . anybody has similar motor or relevant information?
thanks
riaz
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02 Sep 2020 15:26 #180442 by PCW
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From a quick glance:
Pin 13 to En0+
Pin 14 to En0-
But do please wait for PCW's confirmation.


No, I think the drawing is correct because the chart says the enable is active low
So
EN0+ to pin 14
EN0- to 24V ground

So drive enable grounds PIN 14 when enabled
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02 Sep 2020 17:43 #180452 by tommylight
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From a quick glance:
Pin 13 to En0+
Pin 14 to En0-
But do please wait for PCW's confirmation.


No, I think the drawing is correct because the chart says the enable is active low
So
EN0+ to pin 14
EN0- to 24V ground

So drive enable grounds PIN 14 when enabled

I need bigger glasses !
Thank you Peter.
Deleting the post with wrong info.

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02 Sep 2020 18:31 - 02 Sep 2020 19:06 #180454 by PCW
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Well assuming the chart is right...

Note that in most cases you can easily check if an input
needs a NPN (sinking) or PNP (sourcing) signal by measuring
the input voltage when unconnected. If the pin reads a large positive
voltage when unconnected, it needs a sinking driver (pulls to ground)
If the pin reads close to 0V when unconnected, it needs a sourcing
driver. (pull up to 5V,12V or 24V usually)
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02 Sep 2020 19:23 #180457 by tommylight
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Well assuming the chart is right...

So far from experience, if a drive has a 24V pin ( or 5V or 12V ) it will require all input pins to be brought to that potential to activate, while if they a have a GND pin they would require bringing inputs to ground level to activate. And from that chart i saw a 24V pin, so ...... :)

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17 May 2021 13:46 #209225 by NEMARIAZ
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HI All,
I was able to run the machine finally . All axis and spindle are working . But I have an observation on Y and X axis . During Jogging I am finding that axis is jerking . I have taken the Halscope plot . See attached pics for reference

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Logs are also attached .

To verify hardware and connections I scoped using oscilloscope . encoder pulsed looks clean . (no gaps or missing pulses .)

Z axis is working OK . Anybody faced this issue before ?. Please guide.
Thanks
Riaz
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17 May 2021 14:06 #209227 by PCW
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Do the jerks happen at the same locations?

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17 May 2021 15:52 #209237 by NEMARIAZ
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It's repeating in regular intervals throughout travel. I checked ball screw it's free .No catching any where.

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17 May 2021 16:11 #209238 by PCW
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Linear or rotary encoders?

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17 May 2021 16:39 #209241 by bevins
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Well assuming the chart is right...

So far from experience, if a drive has a 24V pin ( or 5V or 12V ) it will require all input pins to be brought to that potential to activate, while if they a have a GND pin they would require bringing inputs to ground level to activate. And from that chart i saw a 24V pin, so ...... :)


All of the Yaskawa drives I worked on need a gnd to activate.

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