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30 May 2024 21:53 - 30 May 2024 21:54 #301893 by acourtjester
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I am having a very odd problem, I am running QTPlasma and using the built in THC. I can cut parts and sometimes the torch takes a dive at the very end of cutting. The attached images show what I get, if it were not for the break away torch mount I may have broke my torch. 
 

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30 May 2024 22:11 - 30 May 2024 22:32 #301894 by jimmyrig
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I assume you mean qtplasmac?

Go to parameters and increase your (can't remember exact term) void anti dive. This should help but if not try decreasing (or increasing) your p term in your pid.

My guess is it's a pid issue (or you are cutting too slow)

Takes a bit to get it tuned perfect but when it is.....it's sweet. I can cut for hours on a 8x4ft sheet and never touch the torch to the table
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30 May 2024 23:43 #301899 by tommylight
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Are those cuts supposed to end like that?
I do not think so, so :
-check the THCAD division jumper is seated properly and does not move
-try to catch the screen when that happens, does the voltage rise a lot?
-tighten the screw terminals on both sides of THCAD cable, just in case
-check the high voltage cables from plasma to THCAD
And, do you get latency warnings when running LinuxCNC?
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31 May 2024 19:49 - 31 May 2024 19:53 #301992 by acourtjester
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Here is what I have done, changed the speed PID from 10 to 5, PID-I form 0 to 3 and PID-D from 0 to 3. No real change it cuts some part and fails on others. Jumper on the board is on 32 and unipolar.
Tried to use a Cut Rule in SheetCam to drop the THC about 0.250" before end but QTPlasmaC did not like the G-code see attached.  I do get a latency error but not when doing any operations, I get it when editing the G-code in QTPlasmaC randomly.  Attached a screenshot of running the Latency check test.  the voltage does not seem to bounce around that much, the Z axis seems to move maybe0.030" up and down until it crashes. 



 
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31 May 2024 20:08 #301998 by PCW
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A dive towards the work would indicate that the voltage was read as high
It it possible that you have lost the arc and it is not signaled to LinuxCNC?

A halscope plot of the voltage, arc-ok, and velocity when you have the issue would help a lot
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31 May 2024 20:15 #302000 by acourtjester
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I will see what I can do. Not a real expert on LinuxCNC

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01 Jun 2024 00:24 #302022 by phillc54
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Tried to use a Cut Rule in SheetCam to drop the THC about 0.250" before end but QTPlasmaC did not like the G-code see attached.



This is telling you that in line 37 of the G-code (or nearby) there is a M998 command but LinuxCNC will only accept M codes up to M199.
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01 Jun 2024 01:52 #302025 by acourtjester
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I sent an email to Les at SheetCam about that. He has modified the PlasmaC post processor so I could use a delay (M01 code snippet) in it. So I hope he will modify it again for the Cut Rule that LinuxCNC will work with. Not sure if that will help with the problem I am having, but it was suggested by a member at Plasma Spider.

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01 Jun 2024 02:00 #302028 by phillc54
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I sent an email to Les at SheetCam about that. He has modified the PlasmaC post processor so I could use a delay (M01 code snippet) in it.

M01 would be a pause.
linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/gcode/m-code.html#mcode:m0-m1

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01 Jun 2024 02:07 - 01 Jun 2024 02:09 #302029 by acourtjester
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Yes I know that I was using it between a center punch routine and normal cutting so I could change the amps on the plasma unit. I have since found it is not needed as with the tool I use in SheetCam it fires the torch so short it just makes a dimple in the surface. It is much easier to locate the drill hole in the DXF file then measuring after the part is cut.
 
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