7I97T joint following error
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20 Mar 2025 21:15 #324379
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Replied by tommylight on topic 7I97T joint following error
Use PncConf to create a basic minimal config for 7i92 with 7i77, then we can modify it to fit the 7i97T and give it a try.
Simple 3 axis config, no spindle, no I/O, no MPG, nothing else.
Also upload one of the existing configs that run so we can get the card addresses.
Simple 3 axis config, no spindle, no I/O, no MPG, nothing else.
Also upload one of the existing configs that run so we can get the card addresses.
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20 Mar 2025 22:56 - 20 Mar 2025 23:02 #324385
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The issue is this:
[JOINT_0]
CARD = 0
TAB = 0
AXIS = X
MIN_LIMIT = 0
MAX_LIMIT = 30
MAX_VELOCITY = 200
MAX_ACCELERATION = 200
TYPE = LINEAR
SCALE = 40000
ANALOG_SCALE_MAX = 10
ANALOG_MIN_LIMIT = -10
ANALOG_MAX_LIMIT = 10
That sets the PWM scale so you need an error of 20000 inches to
get a full scale (10V) output, or 2 inches to get a mV.
Ideally the PWM scale should be set to the velocity in machine units per second
at 10V. This way, the FF1 term is known to be 1.00
[JOINT_0]
CARD = 0
TAB = 0
AXIS = X
MIN_LIMIT = 0
MAX_LIMIT = 30
MAX_VELOCITY = 200
MAX_ACCELERATION = 200
TYPE = LINEAR
SCALE = 40000
ANALOG_SCALE_MAX = 10
ANALOG_MIN_LIMIT = -10
ANALOG_MAX_LIMIT = 10
That sets the PWM scale so you need an error of 20000 inches to
get a full scale (10V) output, or 2 inches to get a mV.
Ideally the PWM scale should be set to the velocity in machine units per second
at 10V. This way, the FF1 term is known to be 1.00
Last edit: 20 Mar 2025 23:02 by PCW.
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20 Mar 2025 23:26 #324386
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Replied by Tinker on topic 7I97T joint following error
That definitely made a huge difference!! What would be a good SCALE number to start out with? or how does one calculate it?
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21 Mar 2025 00:06 - 21 Mar 2025 00:07 #324390
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The scale is generally either left in volts (10) or better
set to the machine units per second at 10V
That is, you have a inch machine, so motion calculations
are in inches per second, if you set the PWM scale to
the velocity (in inches per second) you get at 10V,
then all the PID numbers are scaled in motion units
(inches per second) and FF1 (the most important
PID tuning parameter for velocity mode servos)
is 1.00
set to the machine units per second at 10V
That is, you have a inch machine, so motion calculations
are in inches per second, if you set the PWM scale to
the velocity (in inches per second) you get at 10V,
then all the PID numbers are scaled in motion units
(inches per second) and FF1 (the most important
PID tuning parameter for velocity mode servos)
is 1.00
Last edit: 21 Mar 2025 00:07 by PCW.
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24 Mar 2025 21:42 #324828
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Replied by Tinker on topic 7I97T joint following error
So say my servos are 2400 RPM @10V with 2/1 reduction and 5 tpi ball screws, would that be the basic formula used to come up with velocity in IPS?
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24 Mar 2025 21:45 #324829
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Basically 4 IPS would be my scale number if I'm understanding you correctly..
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24 Mar 2025 22:16 #324836
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Replied by PCW on topic 7I97T joint following error
Yes, at motor 2400 RPM the ballscrew would turn at 1200 RPM (20 TPS)
and 20 TPS * 0.2 IPT = 4 IPS
and 20 TPS * 0.2 IPT = 4 IPS
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