THC config that works.

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02 May 2018 22:56 #110069 by tothwelding
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i am new to all of this, I currently have a table set up and i can move it around manually. I have the proma thc and i think i have all the config files changed that needed changed. I am supposed to put this proma folder into another con fig folder and make a shortcut. I am lost and cannot figure it out

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03 May 2018 15:12 - 03 May 2018 15:13 #110120 by kpj10
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Why don't you try opening the setup from the terminal.

It is simple:

Open terminal and cd to the directory where you have your config folder.

Then in that directory type linuxcnc thc_toma.ini, everything should work as expected.

Kunal
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04 May 2018 01:12 - 04 May 2018 01:23 #110158 by Grotius
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@Tothwelding,

Your proma download files from proma poland, you can extract them and put them in your config folder.

Here are the files :

File Attachment:

File Name: LinuxCNC_2...5-03.zip
File Size:26 KB


Okey then extract the folder in your linuxcnc config directory see picture :



If you now startup linuxcnc, you can select this configuration and make a shortcut startup copy to your desktop.

Select your toma thc desktop icon and it would not start. :laugh: if you are connected to production machine.
You need to change some port settings in the parport.hal, and i think also thc.hal in the middle of the file.
You only have to invert some port settings. (high-low invert, Toma has explained this carefully in the file)

Good luck. Remind : invert pins to get them low. You don't have to delete parts, only delete # or add #
Toma works fine.

Be aware of the Toma program sequence. When at plasma start place, the program is measuring the plate height with sensor. If sensor is triggered, then z axis is stop moving. So be aware that the height measure sensor is connected, otherwise your z axis
will spin endless.

The toma thc is a masterpiece of code. It is done by professor toma i think.
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12 Jul 2018 21:49 #114090 by tommylight
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bubels wrote:
I have found the solutions:

in stepper.hal

line:
#setp stepgen.2.maxvel [AXIS_2]MAX_VELOCITY

We need to remove #


That is the solution for anyone who has joint limit errors. This has to be removed in the stepper.hal file.
Also attached the edited file to the original post.

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06 Sep 2018 17:31 #117157 by freemoore
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Hi all.
Is there a way to get this system to run using a z-home (top of z axis travel) as well as a float switch, or is it necessary to disconnect the home for the thc to work?
many thanks,
andy

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06 Sep 2018 20:33 #117163 by Grotius
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Hi Andy,

I never used a z home sensor on a plasma machine. I think you have to use the Toma code as it is now.
Less is more.

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06 Sep 2018 21:30 #117169 by tommylight
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You can use the Z home but normally it will not work as the homing is already implemented in hal and can be set in the ini file at what height you want it. Since the search for the material is automated, homing is just to set a safe initial height, after that all the G0 moves are governed by the "travel height" set in the Axis GUI at the right side.

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07 Sep 2018 01:29 #117171 by freemoore
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So I should set the home offset in the ini file to be roughly the height of the z-axis top above the material, and disable the z-home switch connections in the hal files?

I couldn't see this info anywhere in this thread, but found the travel height and switch travel settings in the xml file, is that right?
many thanks
a

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07 Sep 2018 05:02 #117173 by tommylight
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It is mentioned that it does not use limit switches, that should include the Z axis.
In the xml file you set the initial values for your machine and all of them can be adjusted during use.
The Z axis home and offset should be set in the ini file. This also should be set after testing on an actual machine, as in general they do not need to be edited, i use the same settings on several different machines.

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26 Dec 2018 18:08 #122916 by freemoore
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Hi Tom and company.

My proma THC turned out to be faulty and I want to say: Lukasz replaced it quickly, though I have had it for years and way out of any guarantee I expected: it's unusual to get customer service that good! Thanks Proma...

I started again with a fresh installation of the THC config you provided and a new THC. I'm going through your calibration procedure: Pressing F9 makes the Z drop til the float switch triggers. Axis retracts to 3mm, TorchOn lights up, plasma fires, ArcOK light goes on...all good. Then, the THC sends 'MoveUP' and Z axis starts rising and rising til it's maybe 50mm above the work. I lowered the voltage setting on THC unit gradually down to around 85, so Z axis stays roughly around the same height for a bit longer but then starts to rise again. So I try setting voltage to 80, and now the Z axis moves down into the work...and keeps moving down, triggers the float switch, keeps moving down til the torch is pushed out of the holder and the shroud is smashed, tip is melted etc (I should have been quicker on the Estop button!).

I thought that the purpose of THC control is to keep the arc voltage close to the set point, but i seem to have something wrong - set point too high and Z just rises and rises, too low and Z drops and drops - as if MoveUP and MoveDOWN are working the wrong way? The THC lights and the LEDs in Axis GUI agree with each other, though, I believe the wiring and pins are correct (ie I haven't wired UP to DOWN).

Any suggestions?
a

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