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25 Feb 2025 20:14 - 25 Feb 2025 20:19
How to increase the Z axis punch speed? was created by programador

How to increase the Z axis punch speed?

Category: Basic Configuration

Good afternoon
Everyone

First of all, I would like to thank you for all the help I received in this forum, especially from Mr. PCW. With this help, I was able to go far and achieve a satisfactory result.

However, although the machine is working, the customer wants more speed on the Z axis. I don't know if I'm already at the mechanical limit of this machine, but what parameters can I change and how can I change and calculate them to test the limit of this machine? If anyone can give me a tip on how to change the INI file to improve performance, I would be very grateful.

Below is the video of the machine that was retrofitted and working perfectly with the boards from the manufacturer Mesa.



Below is the INI code
[code]# Generated by PNCconf at Sat Apr 27 14:56:11 2024
# Using LinuxCNC version:  2.8
# If you make changes to this file, they will be
# overwritten when you run PNCconf again

[EMC]
MACHINE = 7i96s+7i84d
DEBUG = 0
VERSION = 1.1

[DISPLAY]
DISPLAY = gmoccapy
POSITION_OFFSET = RELATIVE
POSITION_FEEDBACK = ACTUAL
MAX_FEED_OVERRIDE = 2.000000
MAX_SPINDLE_OVERRIDE = 1.000000
MIN_SPINDLE_OVERRIDE = 0.500000
INTRO_GRAPHIC = linuxcnc.gif
INTRO_TIME = 5
PROGRAM_PREFIX = /home/linoteck/linuxcnc/nc_files
INCREMENTS = 5mm 1mm .5mm .1mm .05mm .01mm .005mm
POSITION_FEEDBACK = ACTUAL
DEFAULT_LINEAR_VELOCITY = 6.000000
MAX_LINEAR_VELOCITY = 25.000000
MIN_LINEAR_VELOCITY = 0.500000
DEFAULT_ANGULAR_VELOCITY = 12.000000
MAX_ANGULAR_VELOCITY = 180.000000
MIN_ANGULAR_VELOCITY = 1.666667
EDITOR = gedit
GEOMETRY = xyzab
#ABATELA
EMBED_TAB_NAME=Alarmes
EMBED_TAB_COMMAND = gladevcp -x {XID} -H ui-alarmes.hal alarmes.ui
EMBED_TAB_LOCATION = ntb_user_tabs

[FILTER]
PROGRAM_EXTENSION = .png,.gif,.jpg Greyscale Depth Image
PROGRAM_EXTENSION = .py Python Script
png = image-to-gcode
gif = image-to-gcode
jpg = image-to-gcode
py = python

[TASK]
TASK = milltask
CYCLE_TIME = 0.010

[RS274NGC]
PARAMETER_FILE = linuxcnc.var
RS274NGC_STARTUP_CODE = G21 G40 G90 G94 G97 G64 P0.025
REMAP= M6 modalgroup=6 ngc=sub_progs/troca_ferramenta
USER_M_PATH = /home/linoteck/linuxcnc/nc_files/m_codigos/

[EMCMOT]
EMCMOT = motmod
COMM_TIMEOUT = 1.0
SERVO_PERIOD = 1000000

[HMOT]
# **** This is for info only ****
CARD0=hm2_7i96s.0

[HAL]
HALUI = halui
HALFILE = 7i96s+7i84d.hal
HALFILE = custom.hal
POSTGUI_HALFILE = postgui_call_list.hal
SHUTDOWN = shutdown.hal
HALFILE = classicladder.hal

[HALUI]

[HALUI]
# add halui MDI commands here (max 64) 


[KINS]
JOINTS = 5
KINEMATICS = trivkins coordinates=XYZAB

[TRAJ]
COORDINATES =  XYZAB
MAX_ANGULAR_VELOCITY = 360.00
DEFAULT_ANGULAR_VELOCITY = 36.00
LINEAR_UNITS = mm
ANGULAR_UNITS = degree
DEFAULT_LINEAR_VELOCITY = 16.00
MAX_LINEAR_VELOCITY = 160.00

[EMCIO]
EMCIO = io
CYCLE_TIME = 0.100
TOOL_TABLE = tool.tbl

#******************************************
[AXIS_X]
MAX_VELOCITY = 160.0
MAX_ACCELERATION = 10000.0
MIN_LIMIT = -0.01
MAX_LIMIT = 1250.0

[JOINT_0]
TYPE = LINEAR
HOME = 0.0
FERROR = 10.0
MIN_FERROR = 1.0
MAX_VELOCITY = 160.0
MAX_ACCELERATION = 10000.0
# The values below should be 25% larger than MAX_VELOCITY and MAX_ACCELERATION
# If using BACKLASH compensation STEPGEN_MAXACCEL should be 100% larger.
STEPGEN_MAXVEL = 200
STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 12500
P = 1000
I = 0
D = 0
FF0 = 0
FF1 = 1
FF2 = 0
BIAS = 0
DEADBAND = 0
MAX_OUTPUT = 0
# these are in nanoseconds
DIRSETUP   = 10000
DIRHOLD    = 10000
STEPLEN    = 10000
STEPSPACE  = 10000
STEP_SCALE = 250
MIN_LIMIT = -0.01
MAX_LIMIT = 1250.0
HOME_OFFSET = 0.000000
HOME_SEARCH_VEL = -33.316667
HOME_LATCH_VEL = -33.316667
HOME_FINAL_VEL = 0.000000
#HOME_USE_INDEX = NO
#HOME_SEQUENCE = 1
#******************************************

#******************************************
[AXIS_Y]
MAX_VELOCITY = 160.0
MAX_ACCELERATION = 10000.0
MIN_LIMIT = -0.01
#MAX_LIMIT = 1293.0
MAX_LIMIT = 1164.0

[JOINT_1]
TYPE = LINEAR
HOME = 0.0
FERROR = 10.0
MIN_FERROR = 1.0
MAX_VELOCITY = 160.0
MAX_ACCELERATION = 10000.0
# The values below should be 25% larger than MAX_VELOCITY and MAX_ACCELERATION
# If using BACKLASH compensation STEPGEN_MAXACCEL should be 100% larger.
STEPGEN_MAXVEL = 200
STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 12500
P = 1000
I = 0
D = 0
FF0 = 0
FF1 = 1
FF2 = 0
BIAS = 0
DEADBAND = 0
MAX_OUTPUT = 0
# these are in nanoseconds
DIRSETUP   = 10000
DIRHOLD    = 10000
STEPLEN    = 9000
STEPSPACE  = 10000
STEP_SCALE = 250
MIN_LIMIT = -0.01
MAX_LIMIT = 1293.0
HOME_OFFSET = 0.000000
HOME_SEARCH_VEL = -33.316667
HOME_LATCH_VEL = -33.316667
HOME_FINAL_VEL = 0.000000
#HOME_USE_INDEX = NO
#HOME_SEQUENCE = 1
#******************************************

#******************************************
[AXIS_Z]
#MAX_VELOCITY = 25.0
MAX_VELOCITY = 50.0
#MAX_ACCELERATION = 750.0
MAX_ACCELERATION = 1000.0
#MIN_LIMIT = -100.0
#MAX_LIMIT = 0.01
MIN_LIMIT = -100.0
MAX_LIMIT = 100.0

[JOINT_2]
TYPE = LINEAR
HOME = 0.0
FERROR = 50
MIN_FERROR = 50
#MAX_VELOCITY = 25.0
MAX_VELOCITY = 125.0
#MAX_ACCELERATION = 750.0
MAX_ACCELERATION = 1750.0
P = 50.0
I = 0.0
D = 0.0
FF0 = 0.0
FF1 = 1.0
FF2 = 0.0
BIAS = 0.0
DEADBAND = 0.0
MAX_OUTPUT = 0.0
ENCODER_SCALE = 415
OUTPUT_SCALE = 10
OUTPUT_MIN_LIMIT = -10.0
OUTPUT_MAX_LIMIT = 10.0
MIN_LIMIT = -100.0
MAX_LIMIT = 100.0
HOME_OFFSET = 0.0
#HOME_SEQUENCE = 0
#******************************************
[AXIS_A]
MAX_VELOCITY = 360.0
MAX_ACCELERATION = 1200.0
MIN_LIMIT = -500.0
MAX_LIMIT = 500.0

[JOINT_3]
#TYPE = ANGULAR
TYPE = LINEAR
HOME = 0.0
FERROR = 0.5
MIN_FERROR = 0.05
MAX_VELOCITY = 360.0
MAX_ACCELERATION = 1200.0
# The values below should be 25% larger than MAX_VELOCITY and MAX_ACCELERATION
# If using BACKLASH compensation STEPGEN_MAXACCEL should be 100% larger.
STEPGEN_MAXVEL = 450
STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 1500
P = 1000
I = 0
D = 0
FF0 = 0
FF1 = 1
FF2 = 0
BIAS = 0
DEADBAND = 0
MAX_OUTPUT = 0
# these are in nanoseconds
DIRSETUP   = 10000
DIRHOLD    = 10000
STEPLEN    = 5000
STEPSPACE  = 5000
STEP_SCALE = 222
MIN_LIMIT = -500.0
MAX_LIMIT = 500.0
HOME_OFFSET = 0.0
#HOME_SEQUENCE = 1
#******************************************
[AXIS_B]
MAX_VELOCITY = 160.0
MAX_ACCELERATION = 10000.0
MIN_LIMIT = -45000.0
MAX_LIMIT = 45000.0

[JOINT_4]
TYPE = LINEAR
HOME = 0.0
FERROR = 10.0
MIN_FERROR = 1.0
MAX_VELOCITY = 160.0
MAX_ACCELERATION = 10000.0
# The values below should be 25% larger than MAX_VELOCITY and MAX_ACCELERATION
# If using BACKLASH compensation STEPGEN_MAXACCEL should be 100% larger.
STEPGEN_MAXVEL = 200
STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 12500
P = 1000
I = 0
D = 0
FF0 = 0
FF1 = 1
FF2 = 0
BIAS = 0
DEADBAND = 0
MAX_OUTPUT = 0
# these are in nanoseconds
DIRSETUP   = 10000
DIRHOLD    = 10000
STEPLEN    = 10000
STEPSPACE  = 10000
STEP_SCALE = 142
MIN_LIMIT = -45000.0
MAX_LIMIT = 45000.0
HOME_OFFSET = -92.000000
HOME_SEARCH_VEL = -33.316667
HOME_LATCH_VEL = -33.316667
HOME_FINAL_VEL = 0.000000
#HOME_USE_INDEX = NO
#HOME_SEQUENCE = 1
[SPINDLE_0]
P = 0
I = 0
D = 0
FF0 = 1
FF1 = 0
FF2 = 0
BIAS = 0
DEADBAND = 0
MAX_OUTPUT = 2000


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  • jst
  • jst
25 Feb 2025 20:08
Replied by jst on topic Lathe project

Lathe project

Category: Turning

RotarySMP post=322596 userid=2917I like that sturdy cast base they put this lathe on. You are making a really nice job on that retrofit.

At least with my Knuth lathe, the base is out of rather thin sheet metal and tends to vibrate.
  • jst
  • jst
25 Feb 2025 20:04
Replied by jst on topic Lathe project

Lathe project

Category: Turning

Mechanically similar machines where sold by Knuth in Germany with a Sinumerik control.
The toolchanger is fiddly to adjust, if you have to take it apart, I can look for my notes on how to assemble it.
I have changed the pulley ratio to get a higher spindle speed.
  • Hakan
  • Hakan
25 Feb 2025 20:01 - 25 Feb 2025 20:06

EtherCAT XML Configuration help (Elmo drive)

Category: EtherCAT

Ok, I see. Have a look here, it outlines what you need to do. Save the output in ethercat-conf.xml and have a look at some examples.
github.com/linuxcnc-ethercat/linuxcnc-ethercat

There is also some good info in the sticky here forum.linuxcnc.org/ethercat/45336-etherc...-how-to-step-by-step

At a minimum you need some lines in the hal file, like
loadusr -W lcec_conf ethercat-conf.xml

and you need to have the ethercat-conf.xml (which you got from lcec_configgen)


 
  • cakeslob
  • cakeslob
25 Feb 2025 19:48
Replied by cakeslob on topic Modify AXIS GUI

Modify AXIS GUI

Category: General LinuxCNC Questions

linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gui/axis.html#_user_command_file

modify it using this local file instead. no need to change source, its easily deployable and is mostly safe from updates.

linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gui/axis.html#_axis_customization_hints
  • Aciera
  • Aciera's Avatar
25 Feb 2025 19:19 - 25 Feb 2025 19:22
Replied by Aciera on topic Modify AXIS GUI

Modify AXIS GUI

Category: General LinuxCNC Questions

The classic axis gui is written in python so there is no need to compile anything here.
Source code is here:
github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/tree/master/src/emc/usr_intf/axis

It has nothing to do with qtvcp, but there is a qtvcp version of axis.
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