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  • tommylight
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Yesterday 14:59
Replied by tommylight on topic Forum Fehler, ... :-(

Forum Fehler, ... :-(

Category: Deutsch

Debug enabled, give it a try.
  • andrax
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Yesterday 14:06
Replied by andrax on topic Ethercat random jitter fix

Ethercat random jitter fix

Category: EtherCAT

Okay, thank you.

I had already thought that the issue had something to do with packet loss when starting LinuxCNC.
However, this seems to occur during operation, which I have not yet experienced. If this work results in ethercat running more stably, I will simply wait until Sascha announces an official patch, which will likely be available via update.
Until then, I will simply stick with refClockSyncCycles="1">.
  • hitchhiker
  • hitchhiker
Yesterday 13:57

EMCO Compact 5 cnc Turret with dc motor and no feedback

Category: Advanced Configuration

I got it working.

No feedback needed.
3 pins are used..

Forward
Backward
Pwm pulse

L298n cheap modul.

I clean up the component and then i make a small video und can share the code.

I use a 8 position toolchsnger from my emco 220 where i unmount the lightbarrier pcb.

How it works:

Start linuxcnc..
Then 1 time make movement over a button of the toolchanger.
Then look which tool is in position.
Then set toolnumber over buttons.

After this all is done over timing.
No motor noise!
No overheating!
No issues!

Rollover is handled.
The biggest problem was to find the correct timings and speeds.

The reason for the issue is that the dc motor has a planetary gear and the wormgear has small play.

You can setup:
How many toolslots you have
Time from slot to slot
Backward time
Backward locking time

Pwm for forward
Pwm for backward
Pwm for locking against the pawl

Advantage:
If you hit emergency off the toolchanger stops and resets

You can add reference signal to tool1
You can drive toolchanger from slot 2 slot over buttons.

You have pins where you csn see if you have rollover and the slots it must travel.

Its complete openloop and can setup over a hal or halpkns
  • Hannes
  • Hannes
Yesterday 13:56 - Yesterday 13:57
Replied by Hannes on topic XHC WHB04B development?

XHC WHB04B development?

Category: General LinuxCNC Questions

@Finngineering: So you did not start a rewrite? I see it the same way. The actual component looks like a school book example of object oriented design, then it didn't suite the needs, took way more time then estimated and the needed redesign, simplification and finalizing never happened. But for a rewrite, the chances are high the same will happen and to get it to the functional state the actual module has, it will take a lot of time. So if it works now, fine. If there emerge unsolvable issues, we can think about it again.

I looked quickly into the xhc-hb04: is way less complex but it also has less functionality. I find this automatic change to manual quite nice. And the xhc-hb04 has a complex hal and config file which probably also makes it difficult to use.

@rodw: As I understand linuxcnc, before homing, you can only jog single axis due to the kinematics needs homing. But due to jogging Y1 separate from Y2 will bend the gantry, this is deactivated like in my machine using HOME_SEQUENCE. I don't need jogging before homing, so that's fine for me.
However, the WHB04B tries to activate jogging also before homing and then generating errors. For me, that's a non-issue, I just don't touch the wheel. And if it happens by accident, nothing else happens except an error messages.
For non-gantry machines, you can jog also before homing, so I did not remove that functionality because it might be useful for others.
An solution would be to add a command line option for this. However, I rather create some chips than continue coding... ;-)

Additionally, I started another rabbit hole which is more important for my machine:
github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/issues/3839

Just a note: Linuxcnc is just a hobby for me I started recently. But I have a lot of experience in coding and bug fixing from my day job and I figured fixing the issues I am having myself and creating PR's would give something back to the community.
  • Hakan
  • Hakan
Yesterday 13:33
Replied by Hakan on topic Ethercat random jitter fix

Ethercat random jitter fix

Category: EtherCAT

It sounds like you get gravel in the servo motors from time to time.
Or you get click sounds from the motors. It repeats itself with a few or many minutes apart.
The first thing to do is to enable syncToRefClock and enable DC mode for the servos,
this will keep the servo loop in sync with the DC.

What grandixximo is doing here is fixing an effect that despite DC and servo loop are synchronized,
the two loops have been started with an undetermined/unfortunate phase between them.
The gravel sound is there all the time and it doesn't go away until linuxcnc is restarted.

Surprisingly, yesterday Sasha Ittner popped up in the PR log and mentioned he had been working
on a complete redesign of the DC system, eliminating all these problems (don't know details)
grandixximo seems to have reviewed that work and decided to adopt Sasha's work.
grandixximo will have to say himself. And if you don't know, Sasha Ittner is the author of linuxcnc-ethercat
from many (>10) years ago.
  • andrax
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Yesterday 13:20
Replied by andrax on topic Ethercat auto configurator.

Ethercat auto configurator.

Category: EtherCAT

I don't think this will be of much use to you.
There are many topics and instructions on setting up LinuxCNC EtherCAT.
First, check whether your system and CIA402 servos are compatible. Then start setting up your system using the templates. If you get stuck, start a topic in the forum.
This thread is not suitable for that.
  • andrax
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Yesterday 12:58
Replied by andrax on topic Ethercat random jitter fix

Ethercat random jitter fix

Category: EtherCAT

Hi,

I also need to ask about this.
How does the jitter problem manifest itself?
Can I see it in the dmesg output?
I have tried to read up on the topic on GitHub, but I still don't understand the actual problem.
It's also a translation problem. 
Another question: is this patch already implemented in the current linuxcnc release, or does it have to be installed manually?
Is there any documentation on the additional commands, where and how they are called?

regards

andrax
  • bobwolf
  • bobwolf
Yesterday 12:15

Solving the USB Latency Dogma for HMI/MPG: Technical Feedback Request

Category: Driver Boards

Hi everyone, I’ve been away for a few days focusing on the hardware side of the project.

Regarding meister's tests: they are very interesting! They confirm exactly why io_decoder is specifically designed for HMI (MPG, buttons, and operator panels) rather than real-time axis control.

While a 100-200ms jitter is critical for stepper motor timing, it is virtually imperceptible for an operator pressing a 'Coolant' button or turning a feed-override knob. By moving the logic to a dedicated user-space thread in v1.1.0, we ensure that even these USB latencies never interfere with the core LinuxCNC Real-Time performance.

Small update: I’ve just ordered a very limited run of 5 'Ready-to-Use' hardware kits (Core + IN/OUT expansions) for those who want a plug-and-play experience without the hassle of SMD soldering. I'll have them in my hands soon for final testing.

If anyone is interested in being one of the first 5 'beta-testers' for the official hardware, stay tuned!
  • T_D
  • T_D
Yesterday 11:17
Replied by T_D on topic Probleme mit NativeCam

Probleme mit NativeCam

Category: NativeCAM

Linuxcnc wont start , how do i CPU that right ? I have no Internet connection in my Workshop thats why i have to download the file and Transfer it with a USB Stick , and when i made this an error accured
  • rodw
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Yesterday 10:27
Replied by rodw on topic update running in place linuxcnc

update running in place linuxcnc

Category: General LinuxCNC Questions

its so automatic I can't remember  source dir I think. 
  • rodw
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Yesterday 10:19
Replied by rodw on topic XHC WHB04B development?

XHC WHB04B development?

Category: General LinuxCNC Questions

I think there is an oversight in the homing model. I can't see why joint axes can't move in unison before they are homed. If my first machine didn't have a gantry, maybe I'd have a different view. I've often wondered why this treats each side or a gantry as seperate axes when they are always joined at the hip!
  • Muecke
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Yesterday 10:02
Replied by Muecke on topic Forum Fehler, ... :-(

Forum Fehler, ... :-(

Category: Deutsch

Ich kann auch kein neues Thema eröffnen. 

Um eine detaillierte Fehlermeldung zu erhalten, muss der Debug-Modus des Forums aktiviert werden. Dann gibt das Forum eine klare Fehlermeldung aus. 

@ tommylight:  www.kunena.org/forum/36-German/169090-in...timmte-themen#234690

 

Gruß Mücke 
  • Hakan
  • Hakan
Yesterday 09:55
Replied by Hakan on topic XHC WHB04B development?

XHC WHB04B development?

Category: General LinuxCNC Questions

There are always situations with tool and work piece geometries
and unfortunate stop situations where one need to stick the nose (eyes) close up
to guide the tool out of the situation before it's free for homing.
I guess the best is to leave it up to the user if he wants to jog before homing.
  • papagno-source
  • papagno-source
Yesterday 09:48
Replied by papagno-source on topic update running in place linuxcnc

update running in place linuxcnc

Category: General LinuxCNC Questions

Hi Thank for reply.
The git pull command start with terminal in SRC directory on base directoiry ?

Thanks
  • rodw
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Yesterday 09:36
Replied by rodw on topic update running in place linuxcnc

update running in place linuxcnc

Category: General LinuxCNC Questions

git pull
make
sudo make setuid

That's it so simple!
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