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18 Apr 2020 02:05 #164386 by Uthayne
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hal show works. I usually open up hal meter and select the ohmicsense.ohmic-volts pin

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18 Apr 2020 02:34 #164388 by snowgoer540
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hal show works. I usually open up hal meter and select the ohmicsense.ohmic-volts pin


Ok thanks. So it’s causing you a bunch of false trips?

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18 Apr 2020 02:39 #164389 by Uthayne
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Correct. Then I either have to wait a while for it to dry out, or disassemble it completely and run the air through it. It's still not guaranteed to get it to drop the voltage. I'm not really sure how to prevent it though. If there was less noise/fluctuation on the line, it may be more controllable via the set points

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18 Apr 2020 02:50 #164390 by snowgoer540
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Correct. Then I either have to wait a while for it to dry out, or disassemble it completely and run the air through it. It's still not guaranteed to get it to drop the voltage. I'm not really sure how to prevent it though. If there was less noise/fluctuation on the line, it may be more controllable via the set points


What brand cutter are you using?

Do you use the encoder filter?

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18 Apr 2020 02:52 #164391 by Uthayne
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Hypertherm Powermax 45xp with machine torch
Yes the encoder filter is enabled

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18 Apr 2020 04:05 - 18 Apr 2020 04:06 #164393 by rodw
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Ah, I figured it out. I already had defined plasmac:ohmic-enable in my connections.hal with:
net plasmac:ohmic-enable        plasmac.ohmic-enable             =>  hm2_7i76e.0.7i76.0.0.output-11
Sorry about that guys.
This is a hangover from my earlier relay based config.
I'm wondering now if the relay system would work with a short in the torch from water. Certainly the relays I used had on and off points well below the off threshold.

I wonder if its worth trying a 48 volt power supply and changing the THCAD scaling? Would that increase the on/off threshold. Maybe PCW could chime in here with his thoughts.
Last edit: 18 Apr 2020 04:06 by rodw.

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18 Apr 2020 04:36 #164396 by phillc54
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@Rod

Do you want to change the bottom of the Primer to read something like:
# --- Replace Plasmac’s Ohmic sensing signal ---
unlinkp debounce.0.2.in
net ohmic-true ohmicsense.ohmic-on => debounce.0.2.in

# --- If you have a valid plasmac:ohmic_enable connection above then add this line:
net plasmac:ohmic-enable    =>  ohmicsense.is-probing

# --- If you do not have a valid plasmac:ohmic_enable connection above then add this line:
net plasmac:ohmic-enable   plasmac.ohmic-enable  =>  ohmicsense.is-probing   hm2_7i76e.0.7i76.0.0.output-11

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18 Apr 2020 04:47 #164399 by rodw
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Phill,

I think I am the outlier. It probably should just be:
# --- Replace Plasmac’s Ohmic sensing signal ---
unlinkp debounce.0.2.in 
net ohmic-true ohmicsense.ohmic-on => debounce.0.2.in

# ---Connect Plasmac’s is-probing signal ---
net plasmac:ohmic-enable    plasmac.ohmic-enable =>  ohmicsense.is-probing

Not many people will have used two different methods so it really was my bad.

I posted on another thread an idea for a different algorithm which might solve the water table issue. So I'll be interest to receive feedback

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18 Apr 2020 09:29 #164432 by phillc54
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I thinking that folk you don't have ohmic setup at all won't have the plasmac:ohmic-enable signal and those that have relay ohmic will.

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18 Apr 2020 09:35 #164434 by rodw
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I thinking that folk you don't have ohmic setup at all won't have the plasmac:ohmic-enable signal and those that have relay ohmic will.


Yes I think they are mutually exclusive

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