Starting another conversion Harrison L5a
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03 Jan 2016 18:24 #67764
by mblaszkiewicz
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I tried running it a little not exectly what I was looking for.
So back to normal axis tool table and I have a problem reading it in.
I have been able to touch off and reset zero which for one part is fine. This is the first time I tried multiple tools in 1 shot.
I ran the program below with the offesets I have in ther tool.tbl file and it is not working.
my z zero is the front of the part,
x zero is my home position
I'm sure the problem is an id 10 T error.
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I don't know the proper order for what I doing.
Also I use a cam program for all programming so I really need to work in G code.
So back to normal axis tool table and I have a problem reading it in.
I have been able to touch off and reset zero which for one part is fine. This is the first time I tried multiple tools in 1 shot.
I ran the program below with the offesets I have in ther tool.tbl file and it is not working.
my z zero is the front of the part,
x zero is my home position
I'm sure the problem is an id 10 T error.
Me
I don't know the proper order for what I doing.
Also I use a cam program for all programming so I really need to work in G code.
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04 Jan 2016 01:42 #67793
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Starting another conversion Harrison L5a
Here is how I use my lathe.
T1 is a normal side and face tool. That always has 0 in all the tool table offsets.
I make a test cut, measure with a caliper, and set the G54 X offset.
I then either measure from a face, or face off, and set the G55 Z offset to 0.
I do this with the Touch-off button in Axis, as a simpler way to get the calculated values into the tool table or the coordinate system offsets.
Then for any other tools, I repeat the process. But, I touch them off into the tool table, not into G54.
So, the value in the tool table for each tool becomes a measure of how that tool differs from T1, my master tool.
I work a similar way with the mill, except in that case my master tool is the touch-probe.
T1 is a normal side and face tool. That always has 0 in all the tool table offsets.
I make a test cut, measure with a caliper, and set the G54 X offset.
I then either measure from a face, or face off, and set the G55 Z offset to 0.
I do this with the Touch-off button in Axis, as a simpler way to get the calculated values into the tool table or the coordinate system offsets.
Then for any other tools, I repeat the process. But, I touch them off into the tool table, not into G54.
So, the value in the tool table for each tool becomes a measure of how that tool differs from T1, my master tool.
I work a similar way with the mill, except in that case my master tool is the touch-probe.
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04 Jan 2016 04:11 #67801
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How do you write the offsets into the program and where in the tool table do you put your ofacets for x and z
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04 Jan 2016 10:04 #67808
by andypugh
I don't write the offsets into the program. I don't even know what the numbers are.
Once the tool table is filled out by the touch-off process it doesn't need much attention until that tool is moved in the holder or a different tip geometry is used.
So, the G-code just says M6 T7 G43, and then that loads the tool and loads the correct offsets.
I never use a G10 in a program. I occasionally use G10 in the MDI window if I have accidentally put an offset in tool 1.
Replied by andypugh on topic Starting another conversion Harrison L5a
How do you write the offsets into the program and where in the tool table do you put your ofacets for x and z
I don't write the offsets into the program. I don't even know what the numbers are.
Once the tool table is filled out by the touch-off process it doesn't need much attention until that tool is moved in the holder or a different tip geometry is used.
So, the G-code just says M6 T7 G43, and then that loads the tool and loads the correct offsets.
I never use a G10 in a program. I occasionally use G10 in the MDI window if I have accidentally put an offset in tool 1.
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04 Jan 2016 12:14 - 04 Jan 2016 12:16 #67816
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In the tool travelers then, when you touch of t7 your z number goes in the z column and x goes on the x?
Do you indicate any dia. Or other info in the table.
Also do you place a D7 . Or H7 after the g43?
Do you indicate any dia. Or other info in the table.
Also do you place a D7 . Or H7 after the g43?
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04 Jan 2016 13:30 #67819
by andypugh
The touch-off button in Axis automatically does the calculation before putting the value in the tool table if G7 is active.
For profiling work it is useful to put the tip diameter in the tool table, but otherwise I never directly edit the tool table.
I don't normally bother with tool radius compensation unless I am creating a curve where the exact shape is important. (which is a very rare thing to do).
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In the tool travelers then, when you touch of t7 your z number goes in the z column and x goes on the x?
Do you indicate any dia. Or other info in the table.
The touch-off button in Axis automatically does the calculation before putting the value in the tool table if G7 is active.
For profiling work it is useful to put the tip diameter in the tool table, but otherwise I never directly edit the tool table.
I don't normally bother with tool radius compensation unless I am creating a curve where the exact shape is important. (which is a very rare thing to do).
If you don't use the H-word then LinuxCNC assumes that you want to apply the offset that matches the T-number.Also do you place a D7 . Or H7 after the g43?
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08 Jan 2016 14:50 #68066
by mblaszkiewicz
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Thank you again to Andy. Now one more question.
This pertains to my vfd. Can I wire my power cord into the vfd and still have full rpm control. The machine has no other items on the circuit (coolant pump, dro, feed motors etc.).
I also cam feed the vfd 3 phase power.
Thanks again to everyone here.
This pertains to my vfd. Can I wire my power cord into the vfd and still have full rpm control. The machine has no other items on the circuit (coolant pump, dro, feed motors etc.).
I also cam feed the vfd 3 phase power.
Thanks again to everyone here.
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08 Jan 2016 15:02 #68067
by andypugh
I am not 100% certain what you are asking.
Is LinuxCNC currently controlling the VFD?
You must never have any switches or breakers between the VFD and the motor.
Replied by andypugh on topic Starting another conversion Harrison L5a
This pertains to my vfd. Can I wire my power cord into the vfd and still have full rpm control.
I am not 100% certain what you are asking.
Is LinuxCNC currently controlling the VFD?
You must never have any switches or breakers between the VFD and the motor.
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08 Jan 2016 15:20 #68068
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The vfd is not controlling the machine. But the machine does have a switch or two in line (power, fwd and rev) so I guess I will have to wire it to the motor directly.
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08 Jan 2016 15:42 #68069
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Starting another conversion Harrison L5a
Yes, you need to wire the motor direct to the VFD then have the existing Fwd / Rev / On/ Off switches operate the VFD.
(Actually, you can do it the other way, as long as the VFD gets turned off before the Fwd/Rev switch breaks the motor circuit.)
But really you want LinuxCNC in control of the VFD to do constant surface speed.
(Actually, you can do it the other way, as long as the VFD gets turned off before the Fwd/Rev switch breaks the motor circuit.)
But really you want LinuxCNC in control of the VFD to do constant surface speed.
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