Brother TC-225 / TC-229 adventure!

thank you @ricardo ...
yes The driver needs two power imput one is for logical board (100v AC is other transformer inside the driver and 4 rectifier bridge ,caps, voltage regulators ) and one (3x200v AC )for IGBT
If you look carefully pinout of axes is similar (mark on the schematic with "same as X-axis) but the spindle signal must be little different .Could you sent me the manual via e-mail: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. just schematic diagram pages please.
If you need some electronic part just tell me (tc 225 come to my with some electronics ,in the box) i save to foundry in last minute

Well, want to clarify:
there are main control signals - Speed control Voltage, Encoder A/A, B/B, C/C, Enable, Amp Fault. In my machine they share same pinout.
It is likely that there are specific signals suitable for Spindle (Load meter) and for axis drives only, but they use another pins.
In my case, one adapter can control axis and the spindle drive (Brother TC-321 uses analog Voltage control).
@stal, i don't have full documentation, just a few pictures of the diagrams. I will send what I have.

tell me more about the adaptor..
all I need this time is to make the motor spin ...not to orient the spindle ...just to rotate with the analogic signal. .
for that I need to know what signal is recommended and their position on cn2

stal wrote:

tell me more about the adaptor..
all I need this time is to make the motor spin ...not to orient the spindle ...just to rotate with the analogic signal. .
for that I need to know what signal is recommended and their position on cn2

If you put a voltage of 10V between pins 1 and 2, the motor should spin at highest speed, i.e. 6000rpm. -10V should result in spinning in the other direction. +-5V should equate 3000rpm and so on.

ricardo wrote:

Hi,
have Brother TC-321 with similar Spindle drive 20BA150FFWB2. All axes and spindle connected to motherboard with 20 pin connectors. Axes and spindle shares the same connector pinout:


20 pin > 7i77 connector
1 > (TB5)24 AOUT
2 > (TB5)23 GND
3 > (TB4)17 QA5
4 > (TB4)18 /QA5
5 >(TB4)20 QB5
6 >(TB4)21 /QB5
7 >(TB4)20 IDX5
8 >(TB4)21 /IDX5
15 >(TB5)22 ENA5+
16 >(TB5)21 ENA5-

17 - + 24V
18 - Alarm out

Pin 2 is Analog GND
Pin 12 labelled P15V, i wonder what that means and why it is connected to Pin 17?
Pin 16 is Digital GND

I would try to keen analog and digital GND separated.

Also insteresting is Pin 10 "P-Control". Seems to be digital output just like Pin 15.

The axis servo drive of the brother tc-225 is something different than in the tc-321, there is only one board with 3 20 pin idc connectors, x-y-z are connected with 1:1 ribbon cables.

I found another retrofit of a similar machine that has some description of pinouts: github.com/laserK3000/tc215Retrofit

Yes, but before short connect Drive Enable pins (in my case 15 -16 )

240v ,one phase ....
thank you to all ...spinning !!! 6500rpm and stop in 1 sec...

Hi!
10 days ago we purchase TC-215....so I would like join your Adventure
Amaizin that after 30 years machine is in perfect condition...all electronic still works fine.

Our plans:
- replace CN boards with mesa and make a pin compatible convertion board to use existing cables.
- will keep spindle
- keep servopack and X Y Z for a while ( in future probably replace with Yaskawa 5 servopack with 400 wh motors)
- probably will use Xplore C5 as contorl pc and touch screen (probably will make some additional buttons panel)

I have some experience in electronic, progaraming and mechanics. Open to share all info thet we have.

At this moment I
- draw electrical scheme of my TC-215 ( hope it's pretty similar to 225?)...
- have gdoc tables with all connectors and relay
- using info from this foum (MANY THANKS!!!!) I connect to drive and can move axis motors.

Have some questions at this moment and will appriciate any advices
1. could You please advice (with some explanation) best mesa set for our task. I thought ablut:
a) 5i25 + 7i77 with pci comp and monitor (benefit ti use ready project form github.com/laserK3000/tc215RetrofitlaserK3000]laserK3000
b) 7i93 (or 7i80) + 7i48 +?? ( can use Explore C5 with ethernet connection)
c) or any other....new....?
2. for some reason spindle driver don't work (come to SV error?) from my 20 pin test cable. axis drives work fine (I short enable to ground and put +-10 to 1pin) Spindle itself work fine from CN board. Could You give some advices please.

Thanks and hope You will accept me in youe Adventure

Rather than 7I77+5I25 a 7I77+7I92M might be a better choice
since you can use a mini-pc and you gain galvanic isolation
of the PC from the control electronics

PCW, thanks for Your advice!
already puchase 7I92H + 7I77and start testing.
I face that there are only 5 official firmware available
- 7i92_7i77_7i74D.bit
- 7i92_7i77_7i76D.bit
- 7i92_7i77_7i78d.bit
- 7i92_7i77x2.bit
- 7i92_7i77x2D.bit
Is it possible to have a 7i92 with (7i77 on P2) and I/O ports on P1 ?

Also start thinking about SSERIAL 7i73 for keyboard and pendant. Could You recomment that?

Thanks and have a good day!