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05 Jan 2023 18:44 #261018 by spumco
For your purposes, strand count and voltage don't affect ampacity.

I'm sure they do, in fact, affect ampacity somehow - an EE can chime in here - but for what you're doing it's a non-issue.

What you (we) care about is insulation rating, gauge (cross-section), length, fill factor, and conductor count (for multi-conductor cables).

And yea, it sucks when a component's terminals are just a bit too small for the gauge you've installed.  Cramming the wire in is tempting but not the right move.
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05 Jan 2023 19:13 #261020 by Sray69
Great! Thanks!

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05 Jan 2023 21:15 #261034 by Sray69
In researching some of the 18AWG wire I bought I came across these answers (by people) to the question about amp ratings for the 18-22AWG wire. It is crazy how drastically different they all are. They obviously all got the ratings from different charts/calculators. 

 

I have also tried a bunch of calculators and they all seem different as well. Most of them spit out a super low amp rating. And then a few spit out super high ratings. Here are two different calculators. The first shows really low amp rating and the second shows really high rating. Note that they are not comparing similar size wire. But look at the gauge wire compared to the amp ratings. 

 

 

It seems almost impossible to find accurate data.
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05 Jan 2023 23:46 #261051 by spumco
Yep.

That's why I go by NEC and then treat everything smaller than 18awg as signal wires.

The responses below with crazy high amps are for 200c... and I don't want anything in my cabinet at that temp even if the wire can handle it.

And 1.5a for 20awg?  Maybe for aluminum conductor insulated with dog turds.

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06 Jan 2023 00:13 #261053 by Sray69
If I have a 200C wire that is rated at lets say 20A, would that be adequate for a 20A circuit if my temps are going to be nowhere near the 200C? Is the amp rating of the wire the same up to the 200C? Or does the amp rating go up as the temp goes up and maxes out at 200C? That sounds like a completely stupid question now that I read it, but I just want to be sure I understand it.

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06 Jan 2023 02:39 #261057 by spumco
Wikipedia has a good explanation of ampacity.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ampacity

 

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09 Feb 2023 16:22 #264146 by Sray69
So I have the CNC completely wired except end stops. I forgot to order them. Will just any old limit switch work? Any recommendations? 

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09 Feb 2023 16:52 #264149 by tommylight
Ones made by Balluff are good, but be seated before checking the price! :)
Mechanical fully enclosed ones should do for metal mills and plasma, inductive ones also good but might need a bit of protection from debris.
Anything from Omron should do, since you are aiming for good quality.
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09 Feb 2023 17:04 #264152 by spumco
I'm partial to NC 3-wire inductive proximity switches.  I believe the trick with these is to mount them in a way that the trigger/flag crosses the sensing volume rather than approaches.  Put another way, if you think of the proxy like a flashlight, you want something (flag) to cut the beam from the side rather than moving the flashlight towards the device you're trying to sense.

I've read they're more repeatable this way.  And you aren't going to smash the proxy if something goes wrong and tries to hit the hard stop.  And the NC circuit means if a wire breaks or something, the controller will see it as triggering the limit (fail-safe).

On the other hand, I've also used $0.25 cheapo microswitches as limits on a couple of low-budget builds.  They weren't repeatable to a 'thou, but that didn't matter much for a stepper plasma and I could run them at 24vdc for some noise immunity (at the cost of the contacts burning out sooner).

As with everything, it's a cost-performance decision.  If you have a table-mounted ATC, tool length probe, or specific fixturing you may wish to have very repeatable limits.  Otherwise, anything that gets you in the ballpark and doesn't fail frequently should be sufficient.
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09 Feb 2023 17:29 #264155 by Sray69
Thanks guys for the info. I think for now I will start with the switches and maybe upgrade to inductive proximity switches if needed down the road.

On these Omron switches, there are three connections. One says NC, another NO and the last C. How would I wire these to the Mesa 7i76?

 

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