1 or 2 dedicated 120VAC circuits for my CNC?
Great points! ThanksYou have to consider who the audience for your labeling is. It will generally be "future you" who will have forgotten much of what "current you" knows.
If you put the same labels on the wires as on the circuit diagram and put the diagram in the cabinet, then future-you will thank you.
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I have been told that all cables carrying any signals should use double shielded cable. Exactly which cables would this apply to, besides the driver/motor cables?
I found double shielded 18awg 4 lead cables for the motors but I am having a hard time finding an equivalent for 20awg 2 lead cables. I found 22awg but not sure that I can use 22awg for the rest of the low voltage wiring.
I'm thinking I could use 22awg for all wires to and from the Mesa board as they are 5-24V at fairly low amperage. Does this sound correct?
What about the power coming from the 60V 20A PSU to the drivers? The drivers will be providing 5A to the motors. I don't think 22awg would work for that. What gauge would work best and should that also be shielded?
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Have a look at "DMX" cable www.rapidonline.com/sommer-cable-520-005...-34mm-22-awg-59-1179
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Others have told me the same thing.
Thanks for your input.
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Here is an example.
Belden (1033A 0101000) - 2 Conductor (1 Pair Twisted) Multi-Conductor Cable Black 20 AWG Foil 100.0' (30.5m)
Operating Temperature: -30°C ~ 105°C
Amp Rating: 8 Amps per conductor @ 30°C
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Belden (5300FE 008500) - 2 Conductor Multi-Conductor Cable Gray 18 AWG Foil 100.0' (30.5m)
Operating Temperature: -20°C ~ 75°C
Amp Rating: 5 Amps per conductor @ 25°C
From what I have read, the amp rating of a wire/cable is based on the current it would take to reach a certain temperature within the conductor under standardized test conditions. That being 60°C, 75°C, 90°C, 105°C, etc.
With that said:
- I do not understand why they are being rated at the low end of their temperature range? Why wouldn't they be rated at their max temp range (75°C/105°C)?
- Why are they not rated at the same temp (standardized test conditions)?
- Is that their max amp rating? If not, how do I find out what it is? Is there a calculation?
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The typical NEC-based ampacity chart covers single-conductor wires. What you're looking at below are multi-conductor cables... and there are a bunch of specifications for multi-conductor cables. And the max ampacity depends on numerous factors - insulation type, thickness, number/size of individual conductors, specifications to be met, etc.
The numbers you posted appear to be the manufacturer's ampacity rating for the environment in which the cable is operating. In the first case Belden considers 30c to be the 'standard' environmental temp for that specification cable, and 25c for the other. And the spec could be read as "this cable can handle up to 8 amps per conductor when operating at 30c"
Note that one of the cables is "PLTC" rated (power limited tray cable) and the other is not. It may be that to meet PLTC specs the rating has to be given at 'xxx' temperature.
So addressing your questions:
1. Because each individual conductor should stay below the individual conductor max temp of 105c when the cable is operated at xxx amps at yyy temp. To see if this is the case, look up other cables in the same Belden family and compare the 2-conductor to a 12 (or more) conductor of the same AWG. I bet the high-conductor count cable has a lower amp-per-conductor rating than the 2-wire.
2. Because they're different cables, meeting different specifications and intended for different use-cases.
3. I would treat the number given is their max rating, but you should contact Belden for clarification.
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MTW Wire - UL 1015
A type of hookup wire with a highly stranded bare copper conductor typically used in control cabinets, machine tool applications, and appliance wiring applications such as HVAC equipment. Wire & Cable Applications for MTW Wires are best for use in dry locations at 90°C, or not to exceed 60°C in wet locations or where exposed to oils or coolants.
The Beldon cable is best for signal applications. It is a bit of overkill for most switch inputs.
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Thanks for your speculations. That kinda makes sense.So addressing your questions:
1. Because each individual conductor should stay below the individual conductor max temp of 105c when the cable is operated at xxx amps at yyy temp. To see if this is the case, look up other cables in the same Belden family and compare the 2-conductor to a 12 (or more) conductor of the same AWG. I bet the high-conductor count cable has a lower amp-per-conductor rating than the 2-wire.
2. Because they're different cables, meeting different specifications and intended for different use-cases.
3. I would treat the number given is their max rating, but you should contact Belden for clarification.
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Thanks. I was not aware of this classification. I will look into it.Use MTW for current carrying applications.
MTW Wire - UL 1015
A type of hookup wire with a highly stranded bare copper conductor typically used in control cabinets, machine tool applications, and appliance wiring applications such as HVAC equipment. Wire & Cable Applications for MTW Wires are best for use in dry locations at 90°C, or not to exceed 60°C in wet locations or where exposed to oils or coolants.
The Beldon cable is best for signal applications. It is a bit of overkill for most switch inputs.
Yeah I am still trying to determine sizing for the different circuits. Wire gets expensive these days especially when you have so many different sizes and ratings.
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