Un-lobotomizing a Maho MH600T
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30 Mar 2025 23:52 #325355
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Here is the big one. I split it using the print to file and custom page numbers. Hope it works
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31 Mar 2025 03:26 #325357
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I have also your ic-nv circuit and had noise problems and voltage drop to 5v line that resolved by lowering the triac gate resistor.
For fuse can use a fuse with soldered legs because fuse pcb base can be problematic.
Noise problems resolved 90% by using other 5v power supply.
I think i will use ferrite beads to ic-nv boards 5v power cable or common mode choke and put
these boards inside grounded metalic box for the remaining noise problems.
Noise seems to appear when servo drives enabled that emit noise.
For fuse can use a fuse with soldered legs because fuse pcb base can be problematic.
Noise problems resolved 90% by using other 5v power supply.
I think i will use ferrite beads to ic-nv boards 5v power cable or common mode choke and put
these boards inside grounded metalic box for the remaining noise problems.
Noise seems to appear when servo drives enabled that emit noise.
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31 Mar 2025 17:14 #325415
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Thank you D Jensen for the manuals. They do appear to work fine. Unfortunately, right now I don't have the time/energy to go through them (long working days...), but will in the future. I appreciate it!
vre: Like you may have read a few posts back, I had all kinds of issues with the scales/interpolators. I did not want to turn this "restoration" into a interpolator project, so I thought I'd try the EXE 602 to see if those work without issue. At this current moment, I do think that my own interpolators would work fine. I never saw them missing a single encoder step/pulse, with the exception for the index pulse. And once I realized the voltage issue (because of the circuit breaker and also fuse), I only saw the vertical axis miss the index pulse. And as it turned out, I think that is an issue with the scale and not with the interpolator, as the EXE 602 also missed the index pulse every once in a while. It was more straightforward to "resistor bodge" the EXE 602 than my own interpolator. And after all time spent on this, I preferred to move on once everything seemed to be working properly. That being said, I do want to still use my own interpolators. But I will get the machine into a working condition before considering that.
Do you need the hal config and components right now? I did have a plan to share everything, perhaps on github. But I would still like to polish especially the components a bit. And also the configs are not really clean at the moment, since I still don't have everything setup properly. But if you needs something now, I might still oblige. At the very least, I will provide whatever setup/information I have about specific issues.
vre: Like you may have read a few posts back, I had all kinds of issues with the scales/interpolators. I did not want to turn this "restoration" into a interpolator project, so I thought I'd try the EXE 602 to see if those work without issue. At this current moment, I do think that my own interpolators would work fine. I never saw them missing a single encoder step/pulse, with the exception for the index pulse. And once I realized the voltage issue (because of the circuit breaker and also fuse), I only saw the vertical axis miss the index pulse. And as it turned out, I think that is an issue with the scale and not with the interpolator, as the EXE 602 also missed the index pulse every once in a while. It was more straightforward to "resistor bodge" the EXE 602 than my own interpolator. And after all time spent on this, I preferred to move on once everything seemed to be working properly. That being said, I do want to still use my own interpolators. But I will get the machine into a working condition before considering that.
Do you need the hal config and components right now? I did have a plan to share everything, perhaps on github. But I would still like to polish especially the components a bit. And also the configs are not really clean at the moment, since I still don't have everything setup properly. But if you needs something now, I might still oblige. At the very least, I will provide whatever setup/information I have about specific issues.
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01 Apr 2025 01:52 - 01 Apr 2025 01:53 #325444
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I know that your configs-components are not finished yet. I don't plan to use them as is just for ideas..Mine machine is very similar to yours.
I missed that heidenhain scales have index pulse.. Where this pulse is located at the start of scale where exactly? This is very good for accurate homing because now for homing i use regular switches that are not so accurate.
Mine machine has 2 identical spindles with gearbox that has 2 speeds and i want to put encoder for rigid tapping. Also lulbrication system is as your.
Mine has also 2 hydraulic cylinders for counterweight of knee table.
I missed that heidenhain scales have index pulse.. Where this pulse is located at the start of scale where exactly? This is very good for accurate homing because now for homing i use regular switches that are not so accurate.
Mine machine has 2 identical spindles with gearbox that has 2 speeds and i want to put encoder for rigid tapping. Also lulbrication system is as your.
Mine has also 2 hydraulic cylinders for counterweight of knee table.
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01 Apr 2025 03:26 #325447
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My scales have a marking showing where the index pulse should be (Referenzmarke), you can see that in the photo below. They are all close to the end.
Regarding my own interpolators, I already made a design change that makes the crowbar less sensitive to component values. I forgot to mention the in the previous post.
Do you vre have a thread about your machine? It would be interesting to see.
I have attached most of the configuration files and the components (the lubricator component in the previous post). The main "logic" and connections are in custom.hal. The geartrain component is naturally for handling the gearbox (18 speed), and the maho_spindle mainly to handle VFD communication (and verifying that communication is working). The idea at least for the geartrain and lubricator component is to keep them so generic that they could be used for other machines without or with little modification.
Regarding my own interpolators, I already made a design change that makes the crowbar less sensitive to component values. I forgot to mention the in the previous post.
Do you vre have a thread about your machine? It would be interesting to see.
I have attached most of the configuration files and the components (the lubricator component in the previous post). The main "logic" and connections are in custom.hal. The geartrain component is naturally for handling the gearbox (18 speed), and the maho_spindle mainly to handle VFD communication (and verifying that communication is working). The idea at least for the geartrain and lubricator component is to keep them so generic that they could be used for other machines without or with little modification.
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