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30 Jun 2011 19:41 #11030 by andypugh
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Now try the EMC2 config then, it might well work now.

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30 Jun 2011 19:47 #11031 by Todd Zuercher
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And I have movement.

Now to callibrate everything.

Andy
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01 Jul 2011 13:45 #11039 by Todd Zuercher
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Next question.

With the old DOS software, I was able to get this thing truckin along at 800 inches / min.
I am getting folloing errors at around 200 ipm in EMC2.

I don't have to get way up to 800, but I would like to see 400ipm for rapid positioning.

The steps/inch is about 1800 for the Y axis and 1500 for the X (Z is 2000 but it dosn't need to go that fast)

Am I expecting to much from software stepping?

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01 Jul 2011 14:56 #11040 by andypugh
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Todd Zuercher wrote:

The steps/inch is about 1800 for the Y axis and 1500 for the X (Z is 2000 but it dosn't need to go that fast)

Am I expecting to much from software stepping?


It was software-stepping in the DOS software, so should be able to work at least as well in EMC2.

1800 st/in and 800 in/min = 24000 st/sec = 41uS per step.

What do you have for base thread rate and stepgen max vel?

If EMC2 is reporting following errors it means that either the base thread is too slow to keep up or that the stepgen rate is maxing out. There is no actual feedback.

Can you attach your HAL and INI files?

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01 Jul 2011 15:12 #11042 by Todd Zuercher
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Here is the hal file (still a work in progress)

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01 Jul 2011 15:14 #11043 by Todd Zuercher
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And the Ini

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File Name: dig6_inch.ini
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01 Jul 2011 15:37 - 01 Jul 2011 15:39 #11044 by andypugh
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Your base period seems a little long for your quoted latency, you will max out at 7kHz with 72000nS. That correlates well with your quoted speed of 200 in/min. Your latency of 13,000 should allow 30,000 base period and possibly 15,000. (Try it and see, if you see "unexpected realtime delay "errors you will need to adjust up)

The PCL720 driver doesn't have a "reset" function which the parallel port driver has (which allows a full step every thread, rather than every other thread). It might be possible to add it by simply copying the method used in hal_parport. That would double the possible step rate.

However, it might be simplest to tweak the drives. At 1500 step/in you have an accuracy of under 1/1000", which seems excessive for a router and probably rather exceeds the stiffness of the machine. You can probably adjust the servo drives to a smaller number of pulses per rev.

If the drives can accept a quadrature input (which EMC2 can happily generate) then that would double the step rate too.
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01 Jul 2011 21:50 #11046 by Todd Zuercher
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I am occasionally getting a runtime error at 30000, but it fixed the problem and was able to move at 600ipm+. So I backed it off to 40000, wich seems to be good up to about 500ipm, and I am setting the max velocetys at 480ipm.

I 've set up M111 and M112 to turn vacuum on and off.

I'll post some pictures of the machine when I get home tonight.

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01 Jul 2011 22:01 #11047 by andypugh
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Do you need more speed, or is that fast enough?

You will probably find that actual cuts are faster and smoother, even if the rapids are slower.

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02 Jul 2011 01:13 - 02 Jul 2011 01:29 #11051 by Todd Zuercher
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That is fast enough. It is actually about where I had the machine set before it croaked.

Here are a couple of pics of the machine

Now I just need to have someone with a scope (our IT guy has one kicking around) to help me do a better tune of the servos. I have never been real happy with the tune for the Y axis since the machine was new. I tried once by hand, ear, eye but I wasn't real pleased with the results. Here is a pic of some carving that shows the problem.

There is just a little to much wobble for my liking. Problem is it is just to much mass for to small of a motor, on an already marginal drive train.

Sorry I didn't realize I was limited to 1 pic
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