Help needed to get my 7i76E + 7i85S + 7i73 on my mill going.

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10 Sep 2018 16:08 #117296 by tecno

Edited comp file

int speeds[15] = {0, 125, 160,

Deleted 80 so now first gear goes from 0 to 125 (I can live with that ;) )

All gears work up to 1000rpm (not running at correct speeds that I have to tune) with gear settings.

But all gears over 1000rpm involve motor to be set at high speed does not work.


This must be the problem == No output for motor-high

component GB_2speed;

pin in bit spindle-enable-in;
pin out bit spindle-enable-out;
pin in float spindle-speed-in;
pin out float motor-speed-out;

pin in bit gear-high;
pin in bit motor-high; <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< !!!
pin in bit gear-A;
pin in bit gear-B;
pin in bit gear-C;
pin in bit gear-D;
pin in bit gear-E;

pin out unsigned gear-required;
pin out bit message-##[14];

license "gpl";


How can this be solved? Not interested to have a manual switch for this if possible to have it in comp/hal.

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10 Sep 2018 18:27 #117305 by tecno
How do I tie motor-high to get output ?

component GB_2speed;

pin in bit spindle-enable-in;
pin out bit spindle-enable-out;
pin in float spindle-speed-in;
pin out float motor-speed-out;
pin out bit motor-high;

pin in bit gear-high;
pin in bit motor-high;
pin in bit gear-A;
pin in bit gear-B;
pin in bit gear-C;
pin in bit gear-D;
pin in bit gear-E;

pin out unsigned gear-required;
pin out bit message-##[14];

license "gpl";
function _;

;;

FUNCTION(_){
int actual, message, motor_max_speed;
int i;
// These need to be edited to suit the gearbox
int speeds[15] = {0, 125, 160, 215, 270, 360, 450, 595, 750, 1000, 1191, 1500, 2500, 0x1P30};
int reqd_gear[15] = {0x0, 0x01, 0x21, 0x02, 0x22, 0x04, 0x24, 0x08, 0x28, 0x10, 0x48, 0x68, 0x50, 0x70, 0x0};

if (spindle_speed_in == 0) return;
actual = (motor_high * 0x40 + gear_high * 0x20 + gear_A * 0x10 + gear_B * 0x08 + gear_C * 0x04 + gear_D * 0x02 + gear_E * 0x01);
for (i = 0; spindle_speed_in > speeds && i < 14; i++);
gear_required = reqd_gear;
if (gear_required == actual && gear_required != 0x0){ // We are in the right gear
spindle_enable_out = spindle_enable_in;
if (motor_high)
motor_max_speed = 2500;
else
motor_max_speed = 1850;
motor_speed_out = motor_max_speed * (spindle_speed_in / speeds[i+1]);
message = 0;
} else {
int j;
motor_speed_out = 0;
spindle_enable_out = 0;
for (j = 0; j < 13; j++) { message(j) = 0; }
message(i) = 1;
}
}

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11 Sep 2018 14:44 #117339 by tecno
Have modified comp to this
component GB_2speed;

pin in bit spindle-enable-in;
pin out bit spindle-enable-out;
pin in float spindle-speed-in;
pin out float motor-speed-out;
pin out bit motorhighspeed;

pin in bit gear-high;
pin in bit motor-high;
pin in bit gear-A;
pin in bit gear-B;
pin in bit gear-C;
pin in bit gear-D;
pin in bit gear-E;

pin out unsigned gear-required;
pin out bit message-##[14];

license "gpl";
function _;

;;

FUNCTION(_){
	int actual, message, motor_max_speed;
	int i;
	// These need to be edited to suit the gearbox
	int speeds[13]    = {0,    125,  160,  215,  270,  360,  450,  595,  750, 1000, 1191, 1500, 2500};
	int reqd_gear[13] = {0x0, 0x01, 0x21, 0x02, 0x22, 0x04, 0x24, 0x08, 0x28, 0x10, 0x48, 0x68, 0x50, 0x70};

	if (spindle_speed_in == 0) return;
	actual = (motor_high * 0x40 + gear_high * 0x20  + gear_A * 0x10 + gear_B * 0x08  + gear_C * 0x04 + gear_D * 0x02 + gear_E * 0x01);
	for (i = 0; spindle_speed_in > speeds[i] && i < 12; i++);
	gear_required = reqd_gear[i];
	motorhighspeed = reqd_gear[i] & 0x40 ? 1 : 0;
	if (gear_required == actual && gear_required != 0x0){ // We are in the right gear
		spindle_enable_out = spindle_enable_in;
		if (motor_high)
                   motor_max_speed = 2500;
                else
                   motor_max_speed = 1850;
		motor_speed_out = motor_max_speed * (spindle_speed_in / speeds[i+1]);
		message = 0;
	} else {
                int j;
		motor_speed_out = 0;
		spindle_enable_out = 0;
		for (j = 0; j < 13; j++) { message(j) = 0; }
                message(i) = 1;
	}
}


And this in hal
# Motor High
net motor-high-signal <= GB-2speed.0.motorhighspeed
net motor-high-signal => hm2_7i76e.0.7i76.0.0.output-10
net motor-high-signal => GB-2speed.0.motor-high

Will try to test maybe later today or tomorrow, any comments ?

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11 Sep 2018 14:52 #117340 by andypugh
I have explained twice now that I don't think that an _output_ for motor high is a good idea. Instead the comp is written to use an _input_ that shows that motor-high is engaged.

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11 Sep 2018 14:57 #117341 by tecno
So what you say is that it should be manually actuated?

If so then it is better to redo all and always have highspeed ON as I have used before. Just a bit worried if I get full torq at low speeds that really concerns me as I have seen the *dark side* of that destroying parts and tools when X and/or Y pushes on with spindle at halt.

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11 Sep 2018 16:52 - 12 Sep 2018 09:03 #117353 by tecno
OK, here is a new table and comp file. Can you have look and see if there is any boo boos. Now 10 gears

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Last edit: 12 Sep 2018 09:03 by tecno. Reason: added data

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12 Sep 2018 09:05 #117383 by tecno
Some typos edited but I get nothing out to VFD

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File Name: GB_3speed_...-12.comp
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File Name: GB_3speed_...9-12.hal
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14 Sep 2018 12:24 - 14 Sep 2018 12:25 #117518 by andypugh
In the screenshot, it is waiting for you to satisfy the conditions specified in message 2 (Gear 33, ie 0x21)
Last edit: 14 Sep 2018 12:25 by andypugh.

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14 Sep 2018 12:51 #117524 by tecno
It is fulfilled Gear E =1 + High Gear =32 ===total 33, this is how I read it.

Im sure there must be a typo hidden somewhere but I just seem to find it.

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14 Sep 2018 13:12 #117526 by tecno

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File Name: GB_3speed_...-14.comp
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With above I can only run Gear E 0-100rpm, other gear settings/S commands nothing out to VFD.

S100 = runs at 135rpm
S50 66.5rpm
S10 12rpm

E + High gear 101 - 200rpm
S200 123rpm
S150 92rpm
S101 61rpm

There must be some errors in the comp code, but I cannot figure out what.
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