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tommylight wrote:

Just shooting from the hip here, but did anyone try to add 22-100nF capacitors to probe outputs or controller/Mesa inputs?
That is nano farads.
Seems like the probe is being triggered from vibrations while the machine is moving, but i do not have one to test.

Tommy,

I've got a motion-type filter in place so that the probe signal is only connected to motion.probe-input during a probing move.  That has eliminated the 'probe-tripped-during-a-non-probing-move' errors I was constantly getting.

However, that wouldn't do anything for vibration-induced probe triggers during a probing move.  That issue is what I was hoping the debounce filter would eliminate.

Sounds like U5 ,U7 or both are damaged (these are the driver chips for the Step/Dir 0..3 outputs)

7i96s_2pwmd.bin Firmware ersetzt STEP4 durch PWM-Kanal 1.

Die Firmware-Dateien befinden sich in der 7i96s-Support-Zip-Datei von Mesa.

Beachten Sie, dass Sie wahrscheinlich den STEP4-Pin verwenden und den PWM 1
invertieren möchten Ausgabe in der hal-Datei (also PWM ist beim Start bei 0V oder Watchdog-Biss)

Aciera wrote:

1. Zip Ordner runterladen (grüner '<> Code' Button clicken -> 'Download ZIP') und entpacken (zb nach '~/linuxcnc')
github.com/Sigma1912/lcnc_logger

Ok, das habe ich
Downloade: (/home/cnc/Downloads/)
Entpackt: (/home/cnc/linuxcnc/configs/demo2023/linuxcnc_logger/) (4 Dateien)

Aciera wrote:

2. Linuxcnc Konfiguration starten

Was meinst du damit genau? Meinst du damit das ich die Maschine Starten soll (LinuxCNC) offenen?
OK, du meintest das ich mein LinuxCNC Öffnen soll, das habe ich gemacht

Aciera wrote:

3. Terminal öffnen ins Verzeichnis wechseln wo du den Ordner entpackt hast und 'lcnc_logger.py' starten:

python3 lcnc_logger.py

Terminal $ cd linuxcnc/configs/demo2023/linuxcnc_logger
Terminal $ python3 lcnc_logger.py

Cool, habe das gerade getestet, bei mir werden dann auch alle Achsen angezeigt. X, Y, Z und C.

Kann ich das auch in meine INI / HAL einbinden so das der Logger mit gestartet wird beim LinuxCNC Start?
Arbeitest du noch an dem Logger? Oder ist das ein abgeschlossenes Projekt?


Ich glaube, du hast mir viel Arbeit gerade erspart. DANKE für so ein Programm. DANKE !!

Earlier today I removed the 5i23 and disconnected the other cards, rebooted, reseated, and then repeated this procedure another couple of times. mesaflash is now seeing the 5i23 again and my system is back up and running. I'm grateful for the 7i80 firmware though in case it happens again. Thank you as always for the support.

Aciera wrote:

Liegt vermutlich nicht am Controller sondern eher an der hal programmierung.

Im Gegensatz zu 'HALFILE' wird für 'POSTGUI_HALFILE' nur ein Eintrag in der INI berücksichtigt. Wenn du mehrere postgui halfiles laden willst dann musst du eine neue Datei anlegen (zb 'postgui_call_list.hal') mit diesem Inhalt:
...
 

Ok, das habe ich nun gemacht.


Mit deinem anderen Beitrag komme ich nicht ganz zurecht.
Was ist überflüssig und was solte drin stehen?
 

spumco wrote:

Not at the mill now, but here are the parameter values I was fiddling with last night:

Traverse: 50-60ipm
Slow probe: 1-4ipm
Fast probe: 15-25ipm
XY back-off clearance: 0.025"-0.050"
Z back-off: 0.025"-0.050"

I can certainly test other values tonight - perhaps start with slow=0, and fast=10ipm?

yeah bump up that clearance, you are likely blowing through that small clearance amount on the fast feed rate if using a wireless probe, give it 0.100 - 0.1500" if using fast and slow probe, make sure you calibration is done at the same final feedrate.  to start i would use just a single touch with slowfr zeroed out. try the below parameters and report back:

 

@JT, ah I see, the forum and the website are on an "own" server not with a hosting company.
My website is at Strato.de, they offer me a ready-made, up-to-date server on which I can install my website (Joomla).
So it's not just about the website and the forum, but about the complete server itself.

Where is this server located? In a company? University, at someone's home?

I can just see how big it is. ...

@ Aciera . Yes, I have read that. Thank you.
 

Hier hattest du geschrieben, dass, nach der Referenzfahrt, die Endschalter nicht ansprechen:

Danke für die Info, das Ref. fahren ist ja OK ist wird er Endschalter angefahren Motor verändert die Drehrichtung und wiederholt nochmal das ganze und Endschalter wird frei gefahren. Aber wenn mann Jog gefahren wird werden die Endschalter überfahren.

Dazu habe ich dir bereits eine Antwort gegeben. Hast du denn das in der ini so geändert wie ich dir vorgeschlagen habe?

Jog Geschwindigkeit solltest du irgendwo in der Nutzeroberfläche (ProbeBasic) einstellen können. Dazu kann ich aber nicht mehr sagen weil ich ProbeBasic nicht nutze.

Just shooting from the hip here, but did anyone try to add 22-100nF capacitors to probe outputs or controller/Mesa inputs?
That is nano farads.
Seems like the probe is being triggered from vibrations while the machine is moving, but i do not have one to test.

Muecke wrote:

Thanks to @JT! I didn't realise it was all down to one person!
I only have a small website without a forum and that's a lot of work. Thank you for doing all this and keeping it running.

Just installing and setting it up is not enough, as you say, there is a lot of work to be done.

I've read a lot in the forum and I think I've also read that one or two people have offered to set up a new forum, but I can't find it anymore.

Installing and setting up a forum should be quite easy, the only question is on which server to do it and who will take over the maintenance in the future. (Unfortunately, I don't have the time (or the knowledge) to take over the maintenance)

I can ssh into the forum as root and upgrade the OS and I do that when I think about it.
I don't understand that.

Translated with DeepL.com (free version)
 

To update the Ubuntu OS which the forum is using I have to ssh into the remote as root and do the same things you would do on a local pc like apt update, apt dist-upgrade, apt autoremove, apt clean then reboot

JT

Aciera wrote:

I think most of the assumptions made about the devs is not correct. While I have the keys to do upgrades I don't have the knowledge to do that. I also don't have the knowledge to create a new bubble with more recent OS. Out of concerns of not breaking the forum I choose to not try any major upgrade. The devs that set up the forum, wiki and the home page have long since moved on so they can't help.
Thanks for that statement. I was actually not aware of the fact that you have kind of been left with it like that. Reminds me of the situation that the release 'team' actually consists of only a single person who has been trying to resign from that post for a while now.
In that case it would seem the best to just encourage whoever has the motivation to setup a new forum so this one can finally be retired, whether the content can be migrated or not. 

I've never seen offers to migrate the forum only complaints about the editor.


forum.linuxcnc.org/36-using-this-forum-q...ourse?start=0#263279

I read this as an offer (mind you, at that time I was not aware that the forum had been kind of dumped on you):

I would be willing to take on the effort of trialing hosting this forum and migrating the old posts and users, but I would need read-only access to the Kunena DB, attachments, and configuration files. I’ll pay for the VM while I work on this. I figure I run through the import, work out the kinks, let a few people try the new forum, and then we do it all again for real, if we decide we like it.
 

I would be willing to take on the effort of trialing hosting this forum and migrating the old posts and users, but I would need read-only access to the Kunena DB, attachments, and configuration files.

And here is another problem, I've never found the database or any attachments in the Kunena interface. I have a few web sites and the database is only in the hosting interface.

I admit I don't read all the posts because I just don't have the time.

JT

Not at the mill now, but here are the parameter values I was fiddling with last night:

Traverse: 50-60ipm
Slow probe: 1-4ipm
Fast probe: 15-25ipm
XY back-off clearance: 0.025"-0.050"
Z back-off: 0.025"-0.050"

I can certainly test other values tonight - perhaps start with slow=0, and fast=10ipm?

the nature of tripod probes, seems that a faster approach speed yields a more positive switch occurence and less chance of a bounce. its not constrained to linuxcnc, this is a known issue on many control systems. on my machine i use only a single touch with fast feedrate and a feed of 8-10ipm. as long as the calibration is done at the same speed it yields extremely consistent precision and repeatability, +/-0.0001"

the xy clearance is also important, you should have enough distance to allow the probe to be moving at speed and not contact during acceleration. post a screenshot of your probing parameters and i can take a look.

fwiw, wired probes have much less of a chance of having issues, i have found that the wireless probes can false trigger, depending on the type, an IR type isn't great around flourescent lights and radio type can pickup interference. the higher end probes typically use a combination of both to minimize false triggers and interference issues. cheaper ones are typically a single layer type.