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7 years 3 months ago #140139 by rodw
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You have to include M5 to turn torch off becasue if its left to M62/3/4/5 if you hit estop, the torch will continue to spew fire which is not pretty if the breakaway activates and the inverter is on the opposite side of the table to you. Ask me how I know?
It would be possible to AND2 the motion pin with a digital pin to enable the torch on relay but that breaks the sheer simplicity of plasmac. there is a motion.distance-to-go pin but I suspect it is for a specific segment, not the whole movement from M3 to M5

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7 years 3 months ago #140141 by mkardasi
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phillc54 wrote: I am contemplating moving the following spin boxes from the Run tab/panel to the Config tab.

Does this cause problems for anyone???

THC Delay
THC Threshold (V)
THC Speed
Corner Lock Threshold (%)
Kerf Crossing Override (%)

I am guessing that these parameters once set would not be changed too much.


Kerf crossing might be an exception for a small subset of users because your kerf crossing algorithm is better at detecting a torch dive than corner lock.

This is based on my particular machine which is only 600mm and capable of very high acceleration rates. Unfortunately, I have not been able to revisit this other than what is in the kerf crossing thread I started.

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7 years 3 months ago #140142 by phillc54
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Kerf crossing might be an exception for a small subset of users because your kerf crossing algorithm is better at detecting a torch dive than corner lock.

The enable checkbox will still be in the Run panel. Do you need to change the override value often?

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7 years 3 months ago #140145 by rodw
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mkardasi wrote: Kerf crossing might be an exception for a small subset of users because your kerf crossing algorithm is better at detecting a torch dive than corner lock.


One could argue that a small subset of plasma users are hobbyists with low amperage machines and do not cut the range of material thicknesses cut in industry so they do not see some of the conditions that become evident in a production environment.

Kerf crossing (void sensing) and corner lock are two totally different conditions.

kerf crossing deals with the sudden spike in voltage when the torch traverses a void. The voltage rise rate is orders of magnitude higher than in normal cutting. Whilst the term implies it happens when crossing a kerf (to save production time), it also happens at the end of a hole when the slug drops away. It is more evident on thicker material. The THC responds to the voltage increase by a massive downward movement to correct the increased voltage. So we need to lock out the THC until normal cut conditions return.

Corner Lock (or velocity anti-dive) senses a reduction in cut velocity. Torch voltage is stable if the height and velocity remain constant. Slowing down the velocity will increase voltage so the THC will try and compensate by lowering the torch which can also cause a crash or poor cut quality due to wrong heights. This does not impact on just corners are there are many situations where the Trajectory planner cannot honour the commanded cut velocity. eg. short segments and irregular shapes.
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7 years 3 months ago #140184 by mkardasi
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phillc54 wrote: The enable checkbox will still be in the Run panel. Do you need to change the override value often?


At the present, I adjust it when I change material thickness and correspondingly cutting speed. ie. A job cutting at 760mm/min to a job now running 1,900mm/min

rodw wrote: One could argue that a small subset of plasma users are hobbyists with low amperage machines and do not cut the range of material thicknesses cut in industry so they do not see some of the conditions that become evident in a production environment.

Kerf crossing (void sensing) and corner lock are two totally different conditions.


I don't understand how this is relevant to Phil's question about Kerf Crossing Override not changing too much.

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7 years 3 months ago #140228 by rodw
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mkardasi wrote: I don't understand how this is relevant to Phil's question about Kerf Crossing Override not changing too much.


Sorry, I missed who the poster was. Really the point is that people with small amperage machines don't see some issues that arise on thicker material and that Kerf crossing and Corner lock are two totally different features

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