PlasmaC Fiber laser 1Kw head height control + auto focuas
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						17 May 2020 18:52		 -  17 May 2020 18:57		#168083
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				becouse i do some test,,i link esp32 to potetiometer, and i was control the frequency and see how linuxcnc act,,, i start from 10 hz to 20k
at low freq it take time to change position,, at higher than 1k,, its fast. but more,,, i may cant judge it with my eyes
for servo i try 500hz and 1khz and 2khz,,
500hz give more accurate number that 1k and 2k is producing more error but it update faster
0.006% error for 500hz
0.012% for 1k
0.024% for 2k
in pwm freq counting
					at low freq it take time to change position,, at higher than 1k,, its fast. but more,,, i may cant judge it with my eyes
for servo i try 500hz and 1khz and 2khz,,
500hz give more accurate number that 1k and 2k is producing more error but it update faster
0.006% error for 500hz
0.012% for 1k
0.024% for 2k
in pwm freq counting
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						17 May 2020 19:01		 -  17 May 2020 19:11		#168085
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				Are you reading the encoder velocity or position? the position will only be updated at count edges. the velocity estimate will be updated every servo thread period. If your frequency signal has period errors they will influence the accuracy of velocity estimation. In this case
a higher frequency will help.
					a higher frequency will help.
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						17 May 2020 21:40				#168090
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				velocity  i was testing			
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						17 May 2020 21:56				#168091
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You are not going to get much better than 10 bit accuracy at 1 KHz servo thread
with unfiltered data because of the timestamp resolution. This can be improved by
setting the timestamp frequency higher
					
	
			
			 		
													
	
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			0.006% error for 500hz
0.012% for 1k
0.024% for 2k
You are not going to get much better than 10 bit accuracy at 1 KHz servo thread
with unfiltered data because of the timestamp resolution. This can be improved by
setting the timestamp frequency higher
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						20 May 2020 06:53				#168345
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				Any updates on your progress?			
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						20 May 2020 17:18				#168393
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				yes about to finish it,
i make an opensource THC thats support plasma and support laser (capacitance)
and webserver (hosted in esp32 hardware )
using webserver u can set the THC mode 1-laser 2 plasma
also capacitance calibration upper and lower limit ( because value vary depends on head specs size and sheet thickness )
higher and lower frequency for PWM ...
i use ESP32,becouse its faster and more stable PWM, also the hardware is very capable WLAN and BLE.
now it should work well.. but i need to modify Linuxcnc,, to remove the retraction after probing coz it will probe to piercing height directly
in 2-3 days it will be online in my github
i bought this head its new desing
also i found cheap and good laser sources
4 weeks old laser source from JPT its lighter than other sources, cost about 6k$
					i make an opensource THC thats support plasma and support laser (capacitance)
and webserver (hosted in esp32 hardware )
using webserver u can set the THC mode 1-laser 2 plasma
also capacitance calibration upper and lower limit ( because value vary depends on head specs size and sheet thickness )
higher and lower frequency for PWM ...
i use ESP32,becouse its faster and more stable PWM, also the hardware is very capable WLAN and BLE.
now it should work well.. but i need to modify Linuxcnc,, to remove the retraction after probing coz it will probe to piercing height directly
in 2-3 days it will be online in my github
i bought this head its new desing
also i found cheap and good laser sources
4 weeks old laser source from JPT its lighter than other sources, cost about 6k$
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						20 May 2020 21:33				#168410
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						22 May 2020 09:15				#168561
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				My experience with CO2 laser tube from china is bad, i brought 3 time 100W tube, quality control is very low, after few moths of use they had leakage. Now i buy in Japan, expensive but no problem at the end become cheap.
Be careful dude, the cheap maybe give to you headache
					Be careful dude, the cheap maybe give to you headache
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						22 May 2020 09:18				#168562
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I agree with the CO2 laser tubes. I have seen the China tubes first hand. But Taloot machine is a Fiber laser. Different kind of beast. But like most things I am sure China can make decent anything, you just need to be prepared to pay for it.
					
	
			
			 		
													
	
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			My experience with CO2 laser tube from china is bad, i brought 3 time 100W tube, quality control is very low, after few moths of use they had leakage. Now i buy in Japan, expensive but no problem at the end become cheap.
Be careful dude, the cheap maybe give to you headache
I agree with the CO2 laser tubes. I have seen the China tubes first hand. But Taloot machine is a Fiber laser. Different kind of beast. But like most things I am sure China can make decent anything, you just need to be prepared to pay for it.
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						22 May 2020 09:49				#168566
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They certainly can! Attending a trade show in Shanghai was an eyeopener for me.
					
	
			
			 		
													
	
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			I am sure China can make decent anything, you just need to be prepared to pay for it.
They certainly can! Attending a trade show in Shanghai was an eyeopener for me.
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