New Trajectory Planner - Testers/programs wanted

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09 Feb 2014 12:20 #43652 by skunkworks
Here is an example showing how the new TP compares. This program is 533k lines long all short line segments.
G64P.0025Q.0025

Old TP



New TP

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11 Feb 2014 05:01 #43724 by rellenberg
This is good news! Is that config for a real machine?

I just pushed a few tweaks that should eliminate some acceleration hiccups. It wasn't handling the tail end of parabolic blends quite right, so there was a subtle stutter. Also, blend radii are a bit larger now to soften the acceleration pulses. When planning a blend arc, it checks what the equivalent-size parabolic blend would be, then allows the arc to be up to that size. Often the equivalent parabolic blend is longer, which means a larger-than-necessary blend radius, and lower accelerations. Of course, everything still obeys assigned tolerances, but hopefully this will be a bit gentler on the machine.

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11 Feb 2014 13:21 #43737 by Todd Zuercher
Tonight I tried to install the new Trajectory planner, to test it on another machine, and I'm getting stuck folowing the the instructions at the top of this.

After commanding ./configure --enable-run-in-place
I get:
checking for libmodbus3... no
configure: error: libmodbus3 not found!
install with "sudo apt-get install libmodbus-dev" or disable with
"configure --without-libmodbus"

When I try sudo apt-get install libmodbus-dev
I get
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Couldn't find package libmodbus-dev

This particular machine I want to test with needs modbus to function, and is currently running master from buildbot in order to get mb2hal.

Where am I going wrong?

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11 Feb 2014 15:41 #43740 by cmorley
You must be using 10.04?
There is a deb here for it I think:
linuxcnc.org/dists/lucid/base/binary-i386/

hard to find!

Chris M
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11 Feb 2014 21:17 #43752 by Todd Zuercher
Yes, I'm using 10.04.
Are there any instal instructions for the less than gifted at using Linux? (much much less in my case)

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11 Feb 2014 21:39 #43755 by Paul

Yes, I'm using 10.04.


Todd - I'm running 10.04 and do not remember getting that error. I do have libmodbus5 and libmodbus-dev installed, though. I don't know if you want to try those or not.

HTH
Paul

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12 Feb 2014 10:36 #43787 by Todd Zuercher
The other machine I tested on was a plain 2.5 from cd install, and I didn't have that problem either. This machine has been running from an original EMC2 2.4 install, that has been upgraded a few times to eventually be a master (from buildbot) install to use the generic modbus driver mb2hal. (that was about 6months ago).
Clicking on the link from CMorly (thanks) took care of the libmodbus-dev dependancy problem.

My first tests, with g64p0.005 were actually slower with the new TP than the old on the file I was using. Adding q0.005 only shaved 3 min off a 25min runtime and without it it was that much slower. Tomorrow I still need to retest it with the old TP and the same g64 settings, to try and get a better apples to oranges comparison.
I haven't ruled out the possibility I didn't install something correctly.

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12 Feb 2014 11:59 #43789 by skunkworks
what kind of gcode? If there are a lot of non-tangent arc-line or arc-arc segments - it will run pretty closed to the current TP. Those type of segment transistions are not handled yet and fall back to the current parabolic - 1 segment look ahead.

sam

The other machine I tested on was a plain 2.5 from cd install, and I didn't have that problem either. This machine has been running from an original EMC2 2.4 install, that has been upgraded a few times to eventually be a master (from buildbot) install to use the generic modbus driver mb2hal. (that was about 6months ago).
Clicking on the link from CMorly (thanks) took care of the libmodbus-dev dependancy problem.

My first tests, with g64p0.005 were actually slower with the new TP than the old on the file I was using. Adding q0.005 only shaved 3 min off a 25min runtime and without it it was that much slower. Tomorrow I still need to retest it with the old TP and the same g64 settings, to try and get a better apples to oranges comparison.
I haven't ruled out the possibility I didn't install something correctly.

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12 Feb 2014 12:05 #43790 by skunkworks
I have only been testing it virtually so far.. I have a router that I need to play with soon..

This program I have attached would probably be a good program for testing your non-tangent arc work... :) (if I have not posted it already...) Lots of arc-line for sure..

This is good news! Is that config for a real machine?

I just pushed a few tweaks that should eliminate some acceleration hiccups. It wasn't handling the tail end of parabolic blends quite right, so there was a subtle stutter. Also, blend radii are a bit larger now to soften the acceleration pulses. When planning a blend arc, it checks what the equivalent-size parabolic blend would be, then allows the arc to be up to that size. Often the equivalent parabolic blend is longer, which means a larger-than-necessary blend radius, and lower accelerations. Of course, everything still obeys assigned tolerances, but hopefully this will be a bit gentler on the machine.

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12 Feb 2014 12:38 - 12 Feb 2014 12:40 #43791 by cmorley

Yes, I'm using 10.04.
Are there any instal instructions for the less than gifted at using Linux? (much much less in my case)


just for others:

On that page look for the two libmodbus debs.
click on one and open/run it - it should ask about installing the deb - go ahead and install it.
Do the same for the other cause I'm not sure if you require both - it won't hurt.

Then try linuxcnc compiling again

Chris M
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