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3 years 3 months ago #275807 by Artur_1617
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I have compressor than make 8bar and drop to 6 before start to load again. Spindle need 6.3bar to unclamp cone.
In finaly version of spindle well by atached sensor of finish motion stroke piston.
Now about orient.
Read all topic with orient but no found setup like mine. Try to mixed all in one but not lucky.
Think the first one orient atached in first post was the best for working with my setup.
I use relay for spindle cw on.       # --- SPINDLE-CW --- net spindle-cw hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.0.output-01
Can You write me example how turn on spindle orient with turn on spindle? 

 
 
 

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3 years 3 months ago #275808 by andypugh
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I have compressor than make 8bar and drop to 6 before start to load again. Spindle need 6.3bar to unclamp cone.

What is the rated pressure of the compressor reservoir? You can generally adjust the pressure switch to cut in and out at higher pressures.

But, even then, I think that 8 bar is too close to the limit for reliability. Can you use a 10 bar compressor or a bigger cylinder?

I had this problem with my pneumatic drawbar, and re-made the actuator cylinder as a tandem one:

Read all topic with orient but no found setup like mine. Try to mixed all in one but not lucky.
Think the first one orient atached in first post was the best for working with my setup.
I use relay for spindle cw on.       # --- SPINDLE-CW --- net spindle-cw hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.0.output-01
Can You write me example how turn on spindle orient with turn on spindle? 


Do you plan to orient with only clockwise motion? Is there a physical stop pin?
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3 years 3 months ago #275810 by Artur_1617
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Dont see any problem orient with only clockwise motion. Dont have physical stop pin.


 

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3 years 3 months ago #275814 by andypugh
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Dont see any problem orient with only clockwise motion. Dont have physical stop pin.

The problem is with inertia in the spindle.

If you turn on the spindle until is it in position, and then turn it off, by the time it stops it won't be in position.

Can you explain how you intend spindle orient to work? Is there a brake? Encoder? Index?

Generally the spindle motor is operated like a position-mode servo during orient, and for that it needs to be controlled with variable speed and in both directions.

If you are not going to do it like that, then I can't help with the HAL unless I know what you do expect.
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3 years 3 months ago - 3 years 3 months ago #275819 by Artur_1617
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Spindle is with encoder ABZ Encoder scale is 232ppr (from ini)
The lower rpm spindle turn 30rpm if i stop them from this rpm stop very fast. Regenerative resistor for stop is there.
About directions, You now better if they need both directions, now i have cw and ccw physical pin for rigid tapping.
 
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3 years 3 months ago #275863 by Artur_1617
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Yesterday found in my inventer omron 3g3mx2 stop funcion "DB" try to use them and if is on I cant turn spindle with hand easy. We can use them for stop and save position under tool is changing.

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