Differential encoder hard crashes the PC MESA7i77

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5 months 1 day ago #346802 by tommylight
Replied by tommylight on topic Differential encoder hard crashes the PC MESA7i77
I suspect the MPG has a defective output and causing a short to 5V supply, that in turn causes the 7i77 to error out. Or it draws to much current maybe?

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5 months 1 day ago #346806 by PCW
This is why I suggested using an external 5V supply
(shorting an external supply would not affect the PC)
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5 months 23 hours ago #346812 by grossm5000
Replied by grossm5000 on topic Differential encoder hard crashes the PC MESA7i77
ok guys, overwhelming responses!! Thank you all for the awesome support!!

I do have a spindle, z, and x encoder, all attached to servo drives. I do not have the drives powered right now because I do not want to attach anything else for fear that I've done something wrong in the config/pin out. I can afford to replace an MPG, I cannot afford to replace a drive...

The original MPGs that came with the machine (Fryer ET18) are labeled as OLM-01-2AD by Maxmar Controls Inc. I presumed (as unlikley as it was) that both MPGs were bad because they both (X and Z) would crash the computer if they moved even one pulse.
The replacement MPGs are no-name Chinese, but are also 6 wire, 5VDC differential encoders. Pictures of those are in my previous posts. It doesnt appear to matter though, the new encoders make the machine behave the same as the old encoders. I am unable to find an official spec sheet for these, but the google claims they are standard quadrature A/B rotary MPG 5VD.

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5 months 23 hours ago #346814 by grossm5000
Replied by grossm5000 on topic Differential encoder hard crashes the PC MESA7i77
guys, the 7i77 is fed off an independent 5vdc power supply, switches are set appropriately.

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5 months 22 hours ago - 5 months 22 hours ago #346820 by grossm5000
Replied by grossm5000 on topic Differential encoder hard crashes the PC MESA7i77
Guys, literally as I was typing that this only happens with MPG stimulus, the computer crashed as I was launching LinuxCNC in the background! I completely unplugged all encoders and launched LlnuxCNC again, and it crashed again. 
This is no longer an MPG issue! Its a random computer issue I cant figure out. 
The crappy part is every component on the computer is NEW, and tests fine. There has got to be some BIOS setting I am missing. 

At least I can stop chasing my tail on the MPG. Before anyone asks, the crash logs are blank, no reported errors.  


As a point of interest, there is still something screwy going on with the computer being able to find the 6i25...
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5 months 20 hours ago #346822 by grossm5000
Replied by grossm5000 on topic Differential encoder hard crashes the PC MESA7i77
Well guys, I switched to a humble dell optiplex 5050 and the everything works perfectly. 
nuclear option. It still bugs me I can’t figure out what’s wrong with the ASUS. But I’ll take the ‘win’ for now…

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