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17 Sep 2014 20:45 #51269 by andypugh
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On a side question what kind of bike do you ride. (Your avatar)


Depending on the day, or the reason, either a 2004 Yamaha R1, a 2003 GasGasEC200 or a 1921 Ner-a-Car Model A.

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18 Sep 2014 03:30 #51287 by mblaszkiewicz
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Ok back home and debugging again

and another error :(

Debug file information:
Brother_TC-211.hal:246: Pin 'hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.1.encoder.03.position' does not exist
4803
PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
Stopping realtime threads
Unloading hal components


and line 246

net spindle-orient-fb hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.1.encoder.03.position => orient.0.position




no idea on the fix

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18 Sep 2014 03:57 #51288 by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Brother TC-211

Ok back home and debugging again
and another error :(

But just think how much you are learning about HAL debugging. :-)

Debug file information:
Brother_TC-211.hal:246: Pin 'hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.1.encoder.03.position' does not exist
net spindle-orient-fb hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.1.encoder.03.position => orient.0.position[/quote]

My fault again. If you look at the other encoders they look like this:
hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00.position

I had forgotten that the encoder modules live on the 5i25 board, and the 7i77 just passes them through.

One thing that can help here is to insert the line
show pin
in the HAL file temporarily after the loadrt section. That gives you the definitive list of all the HAL pins, but you only see the output if you start LinuxCNC from the command line.

Anyway, the fix here is to change the offending line to
net spindle-orient-fb  hm2_5i25.0.encoder.03.position => orient.0.position

Onwards! We have a good few hours until I need sleep.

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18 Sep 2014 04:00 #51289 by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Brother TC-211
Do you know how to access the IRC channel? We can do live support/chat there.

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18 Sep 2014 05:15 #51290 by mblaszkiewicz
Replied by mblaszkiewicz on topic Brother TC-211
Just got back in wifey draged me away to do errands

No on the trc channel , but I will look it up. This time linux starteds all the way then ended quickly

Debug file information:
Brother_TC-211.hal:247: Pin 'pid.spindle.command' was already linked to signal 'spindle-orient-pos'
5190
PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
Stopping realtime threads
Unloading hal components

and a little lost.
do I just delete the line ???

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18 Sep 2014 05:21 #51291 by mblaszkiewicz
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I think I made it there

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21 Sep 2014 08:09 - 21 Sep 2014 08:29 #51389 by mblaszkiewicz
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Thanks again to andy and pete for there help on irc to get my orientation all taken care of. Started checking the machine and I have a reading error in the x axis so far. moved 3 inches (by program) and checked with a size block (+-.0002) and had to move another .050. So from 1 side of the block to the other it was 3.050 reading from the Computer. Is it an encoder issue or ball screw error comp. I only moved the machine in 1 direction btw.


Also What pins do I look at to tune my servo's correctly.
Last edit: 21 Sep 2014 08:29 by mblaszkiewicz.

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22 Sep 2014 06:55 #51416 by andypugh
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Started checking the machine and I have a reading error in the x axis so far. moved 3 inches (by program) and checked with a size block (+-.0002) and had to move another .050. So from 1 side of the block to the other it was 3.050 reading from the Computer. Is it an encoder issue or ball screw error comp.


I would expect the Brother ballscrews to be excellent. It may be that something is loose or worn. You probably need to check moving in both directions to see if it is backlash or a linear error.

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22 Sep 2014 07:53 #51417 by mblaszkiewicz
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I'm pretty sure it is a linear problem. I only Moved in the x pos direction during the check. I also found an error in the z axis of. Apex. .015 all in the z minus direction. I haven't done any back lash checks yet. I was wondering if it could be a metric ball screw or I have the encoder counts wrong

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22 Sep 2014 08:10 #51418 by scubasteve1
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How about error over distance, is it constant? how much error over 1", 2" 5", etc. i.e. maybe the encoders are 2048ppr rather than 2000ppr. Or, more complicated here, the encoder connections are not physically wired how the cards are reading them or visa-versa.

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