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24 Jan 2025 15:15

New PC, Same Mesa 7i96s - No Board Found

Category: Installing LinuxCNC

In hal show, the limit switch pins should show false (red) when not activated and
true (yellow) when activated, is this the case?
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24 Jan 2025 13:50
Replied by RotarySMP on topic Brilliant Bambu Lab

Brilliant Bambu Lab

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++Disclosure, my X1C was given to me from Bambu due to my YT channel, and I like it so much I asked to join their affiliate program.
Bambu has not contacted me on this issue, this is solely my opinion++

Having owned a home built 3D printer for 10 years, which needed constant troubleshooting and tuning, and never came close to the quality of the X1C, which just works, I dont really get the upset. Maybe I understood it wrong, but didn't pick up Bambu proposing a subscription model, or any of the other scary scenarios floating around. Maybe they are creating potential back doors for them, but the upset for what might happen (but hasn't, and probably wont due commercial suicide) seems excessive. No one expects a consumer electronics product to last for ever these days. If Bambu goes crazy and really screw around their customer base with a sub model, locking out existing features, etc, those users would just switch to whatever the latest/greatest printer from the competition is. Adobe and autodesk used dominant market positions to force subscription models. I use Gimp and Freecad. Printers are too commodity for Bambu to successfully wield such market power as Adobe. They would just loose their market if they tried.

As a user rather than 3D printer tinkerer, closing the software eco system seems pretty irrelevant to me. I was never going to switch from the Bambu slicer to another one, as their integrated one works fine. I'd used Slicer and Cura on the old printer in the past, and didn't really care which slicer I used, if the result was okay. If I compare X1C to the Canon, HP etc document scanner/printers in the office at work, those also have completely closed software eco systems (and share diagnostics with the mothership*) as have all printers for decades, and no one seems to care much. No one (well no rational user, I used to run 3rd party software driver for an early epson photo 870 :)  would even consider loading there own print drivers for the document printer.

Bambu has stated they will not close the use of 3rd party filament. If they reversed on that, I would understand people getting upset, but the core software being closed off? If people have a religious need to open source, and tinkering, they were never going to buy a Bambu, they will build a Veron. Most users dont give a rip about the firmware and software, as long as it works.

I know the 3D printing community has a strong open source culture, and a lot of the tech dev was done by the community. That is the only point where I sort of understand the upset, that years of tech dev from the hobbiest have been hovered up and commercialised. However it doesn't seem to me that Bambu need be singled out for special attention there either. They didn't cause that, as there are hundreds of 3D printer manufacturers who did exactly that. At least Bambu did it well.

Isn't this also what Tormach did with LinuxCNC --> Pathpilot? I never saw equivelent upset about that here.

*with corporate document printers, I am sure you can deactivate such data transfer, and my understanding is you can deactivate it on the Bambu printers as well.
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24 Jan 2025 13:09
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