retrofit on EMCO PC turn 55

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19 Jul 2012 15:43 #22206 by PCW
Replied by PCW on topic Re:retrofit on EMCO PC turn 55
OK the first sounds like a standard one channel spindle plus index encoder so should connect to the 7I76s encoder input directly

The tool changer inputs may either need a level shift or perhaps a trick with the 7I76s analog inputs

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19 Jul 2012 18:25 #22219 by jrkeat
I can easily convert them to 24v with a transistor and a resistor (resulting in inverted output), but I had imagined there would be some super-standard IC with a Vcc of 24v.

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19 Jul 2012 20:11 #22222 by andypugh
jrkeat wrote:

super-standard IC with a Vcc of 24v.


ULN2003 ?

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19 Jul 2012 23:11 #22230 by PCW
Replied by PCW on topic Re:retrofit on EMCO PC turn 55
Note that the spindle encoder needs to go the the 7I76 encoder inputs, so you really only have 2 inputs to convert

Since these are on the tool changer and are slow, I would be tempted to do a zero hardware patch
and connect them to inputs 0 and 1 on the 7I76 and read them as analog voltages, then put the analog
voltage through the compare component to get a bit (set threshold to 1/2 way up or 1.8V)

Eventually when we have 5V input options in the firmware this can be cleaned up

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20 Jul 2012 03:20 #22233 by chuck1024
The Emco spindle encoder has an index pulse and phase A which is 100 pulses per rev. In my original wiring I used a 7409 open collector to level shift from the 5 volts to the G540 inputs which contain a +12 volt internal pullup. After looking at a datasheet it appears even +12 is exceeding the 7409 specifications of max output voltage.

When I added a second parallel port, I connected the spindle outputs and tool turret outputs directly to the second parallel port without a BOB because they are 5 volt signals and have the internal signal conditioning circuitry.

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20 Jul 2012 22:26 #22247 by bobinater
Chuck


I have an EMCO PC turn 50 which is pretty much the same as the turn 55 i think, except maybe the spindle motor on yours may be three phase, is that correct? Mine is all single phase 110V


any way I am still running the fan0t control and have always had trouble with the tool turret, when I program a tool change it will try to change and then error out, all it says is fatal error?


any idea what that may be caused by, I would like to sell this lathe but I may have too much money tied up in it to sell with out it working correctly.


if you have any pointers about the turret please let me know,


Thanks


Bob

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20 Jul 2012 22:42 #22248 by chuck1024
My PCturn 55 has a very nice 3 phase motor. I completely scraped all the existing electronics including the VFD. I am using a TECO VFD which works quite well.

I cannot provide any insite on the original software as I do not use it.

I am using a stock tool turret, including the original DC motor and control board. The turret has two sensors. One indicates tool 1 and the other pulses as the turret rotates. I wrote a component to control this turret using LinuxCNC.

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20 Jul 2012 22:47 #22249 by bobinater
Thanks Chuck


I will have to dig a little deeper and see if I can figure it out , or do the discount sale to get rid of it

any idea what they are worth, probably alot less than I gave for it:angry:


Bob

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20 Jul 2012 23:21 #22251 by andypugh
bobinater wrote:

I will have to dig a little deeper and see if I can figure it out , or do the discount sale to get rid of it

Should be an easy LinuxCNC conversion, and at least we understand the Emco tool changer in that.

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20 Jul 2012 23:25 #22252 by bobinater
I agree andy but I would rather spend the money on the hnc lathe that I have been obsessing over

these last few days.



getting closer to deciding what to do.



Bob

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