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Planning to Retrofit a Mazak Integrex200Y Mill-Turn Machine
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04 May 2025 15:05 #327681
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Something I noticed looking at example #11 in the doosan manual:
(PREPARATION FOR START OF PROGRAM)
(INITIALIZE - RAPID, ZX PLANE, TNR COMP CANCEL, TLO CANCEL, CYCLE CANCEL, UPR FEED)
N1 G00 G18 G40 G49 G80 G99
N2 G00 G28 U0.0 V0.0 (ZERO RETURN X-AXIS & Y-AXIS)
N3 G00 G28 W0.0 (ZERO RETURN Z-AXIS)
N4 G00 G28 B0.0 (ZERO RETURN B-AXIS)
N5 G490 S0 (EXPLICIT B-AXIS SPINDLE ORIENTATION FOR TOOL CHANGE)
N6 G00 B-90.0 (EXPLICIT B-AXIS POSITIONING FOR TOOL CHANGE)
N7 M01
(PREPARATION FOR START OF OPERATION)
N8 G54 (WORK COORDINATE SELECTION)
N9 M06 T06006 (SANDVIK C6 ER32 COLLET HOLDER THRU COOLANT - 0.75 SOLID CARBIDE END MILL)
N10 T07000 (STAGE NEXT TOOL)
N11 M101 (LIVE B-AXIS SPINDLE - UNCLAMPED)
N12 G00 G28 W0.0 (ZERO RETURN Z-AXIS)
N13 G00 G28 B0.0 (ZERO RETURN B-AXIS)
N14 M138 (SHOWER BED COOLANT ON)
N15 M126 (COOLANT THROUGH TOOL ON)
N16 M35 (LEFT SPINDLE C-AXIS MODE ON)
N17 G00 G28 H0.0 (ZERO RETURN C-AXIS)
N18 G97 S1500 M03 P12 (DIRECT RPM MODE - 500 RPM - B-AXIS SPINDLE CLOCKWISE)
N19 G00 C0.0
N20 G00 X8.0 Z4.0 (POSITION TO SAFE CLEARANCE)
N21 M89 (C-AXIS CLAMP)
N22 G00 Z1.0
(POSITION TO START POINT)
N23 X6.0
N24 Z-0.25
N25 Y-2.5
(MILL HEX FLAT AT C0.0)
N26 G01 X3.5 F0.0075
N27 Y2.5
N28 G00 X6.0
N29 M90 (C-AXIS UNCLAMP)
(MILL HEX FLAT AT C45.0)
N30 G00 C45.0
N31 M89 (C-AXIS CLAMP)
N32 Y-2.5
N33 G01 X3.5 F0.0075
N34 Y2.5
N35 G00 X6.0
N36 M90 (C-AXIS UNCLAMP)
(MILL HEX FLAT AT C90.0)
N37 G00 C90.0
N38 M89 (C-AXIS CLAMP)
N39 Y-2.5
N40 G01 X3.5 F0.0075
N41 Y2.5
N42 G00 X6.0
N43 M90 (C-AXIS UNCLAMP)
Note that in LinuxCNC G18 (and also G19) do not rotate the coordinate system but only the interpolation plane for arcs. This means that in Linuxcnc you cannot use 'G18' to change Z axis direction as the example code seems to imply. Instead you will have to use the 'Tilted work plane' codes to be able to use 'normal' xyz gcode (where xy is perpendicular to the tool rotational axis).
Replied by Aciera on topic Planning to Retrofit a Mazak Integrex200Y Mill-Turn Machine
I stumpeled across this pdf. Its from a Doosan Mill but it has the same construction as the Mazak and a PP is already there in Fusion.
Something I noticed looking at example #11 in the doosan manual:
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(PREPARATION FOR START OF PROGRAM)
(INITIALIZE - RAPID, ZX PLANE, TNR COMP CANCEL, TLO CANCEL, CYCLE CANCEL, UPR FEED)
N1 G00 G18 G40 G49 G80 G99
N2 G00 G28 U0.0 V0.0 (ZERO RETURN X-AXIS & Y-AXIS)
N3 G00 G28 W0.0 (ZERO RETURN Z-AXIS)
N4 G00 G28 B0.0 (ZERO RETURN B-AXIS)
N5 G490 S0 (EXPLICIT B-AXIS SPINDLE ORIENTATION FOR TOOL CHANGE)
N6 G00 B-90.0 (EXPLICIT B-AXIS POSITIONING FOR TOOL CHANGE)
N7 M01
(PREPARATION FOR START OF OPERATION)
N8 G54 (WORK COORDINATE SELECTION)
N9 M06 T06006 (SANDVIK C6 ER32 COLLET HOLDER THRU COOLANT - 0.75 SOLID CARBIDE END MILL)
N10 T07000 (STAGE NEXT TOOL)
N11 M101 (LIVE B-AXIS SPINDLE - UNCLAMPED)
N12 G00 G28 W0.0 (ZERO RETURN Z-AXIS)
N13 G00 G28 B0.0 (ZERO RETURN B-AXIS)
N14 M138 (SHOWER BED COOLANT ON)
N15 M126 (COOLANT THROUGH TOOL ON)
N16 M35 (LEFT SPINDLE C-AXIS MODE ON)
N17 G00 G28 H0.0 (ZERO RETURN C-AXIS)
N18 G97 S1500 M03 P12 (DIRECT RPM MODE - 500 RPM - B-AXIS SPINDLE CLOCKWISE)
N19 G00 C0.0
N20 G00 X8.0 Z4.0 (POSITION TO SAFE CLEARANCE)
N21 M89 (C-AXIS CLAMP)
N22 G00 Z1.0
(POSITION TO START POINT)
N23 X6.0
N24 Z-0.25
N25 Y-2.5
(MILL HEX FLAT AT C0.0)
N26 G01 X3.5 F0.0075
N27 Y2.5
N28 G00 X6.0
N29 M90 (C-AXIS UNCLAMP)
(MILL HEX FLAT AT C45.0)
N30 G00 C45.0
N31 M89 (C-AXIS CLAMP)
N32 Y-2.5
N33 G01 X3.5 F0.0075
N34 Y2.5
N35 G00 X6.0
N36 M90 (C-AXIS UNCLAMP)
(MILL HEX FLAT AT C90.0)
N37 G00 C90.0
N38 M89 (C-AXIS CLAMP)
N39 Y-2.5
N40 G01 X3.5 F0.0075
N41 Y2.5
N42 G00 X6.0
N43 M90 (C-AXIS UNCLAMP)
Note that in LinuxCNC G18 (and also G19) do not rotate the coordinate system but only the interpolation plane for arcs. This means that in Linuxcnc you cannot use 'G18' to change Z axis direction as the example code seems to imply. Instead you will have to use the 'Tilted work plane' codes to be able to use 'normal' xyz gcode (where xy is perpendicular to the tool rotational axis).
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04 May 2025 18:00 - 04 May 2025 18:10 #327697
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Replied by jochen91 on topic Planning to Retrofit a Mazak Integrex200Y Mill-Turn Machine
The B Axis can be locked but also rotate freely for full simulatanious 5 axis milling.
The milling spindle in the B-axis can be locked in 12 positions for broaching and turning or rotate freely as a milling spindle.
I don't THINK that TCP needs to be applied for turning. To be honest im not particular sure. I know from a metal working perspective that an endmill can have z and x tool-offsets and turning tools can have x/y/and z. How and if that needs to be incorperated into the kinematic...?
Here is a link to see the machine in operation to get a better understanding what is possible:
Machining starts at roughly 4:51
Its a rather simple part for a Millturn but it gives at least a rough understanding of the operation of such a machine.
Tomorrow i wil work more with Fusion and the Doosan millturn PP and see what else of proprietary G-code will be posted.
The milling spindle in the B-axis can be locked in 12 positions for broaching and turning or rotate freely as a milling spindle.
I don't THINK that TCP needs to be applied for turning. To be honest im not particular sure. I know from a metal working perspective that an endmill can have z and x tool-offsets and turning tools can have x/y/and z. How and if that needs to be incorperated into the kinematic...?
Here is a link to see the machine in operation to get a better understanding what is possible:
Warning: Spoiler!
Machining starts at roughly 4:51
Its a rather simple part for a Millturn but it gives at least a rough understanding of the operation of such a machine.
Tomorrow i wil work more with Fusion and the Doosan millturn PP and see what else of proprietary G-code will be posted.
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05 May 2025 07:47 - 05 May 2025 07:52 #327741
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Replied by jochen91 on topic Planning to Retrofit a Mazak Integrex200Y Mill-Turn Machine
I did model up a test piece in Fusion:
The machine type selected in the PP was PUMA MX.
It look like only G400/G368/G17 and G18 is used.You said that G17,G18 and G368 can be replaced with G68.3 and G53.1 which i understand, but what about G400 ? (Functionality is documented in the .pdf). I think if those GCodes changes are implemented into the PP. The Doosan PP is sorta ready for LCNC (besides various M-codes).I can't test the TCP behavior of the PP since i don't have the manufacturing extension for Fusion.
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Jochen
The machine type selected in the PP was PUMA MX.
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X68.316 Y-9.669 Z-64.786 C-15.804
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X68.213 Y-9.91 Z-65.266 C-16.201
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X115.255 Y-16.706 F12000.
G49
G701 (DISABLE TCP)
M273 (Y-AXIS INTERLOCK RELEASE OFF)
M5 P12
M9
G0 G28 U0. V0.
G53 Z0.
G0 G28 H0.
M89
M34
G54
M30
%It look like only G400/G368/G17 and G18 is used.You said that G17,G18 and G368 can be replaced with G68.3 and G53.1 which i understand, but what about G400 ? (Functionality is documented in the .pdf). I think if those GCodes changes are implemented into the PP. The Doosan PP is sorta ready for LCNC (besides various M-codes).I can't test the TCP behavior of the PP since i don't have the manufacturing extension for Fusion.
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05 May 2025 08:58 - 05 May 2025 08:58 #327744
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Looks like G368/G369 can be handled by the TWP functionality.
G400 is different as it transforms the tool offset rather than the tool position.
I'm not very familiar with cnc turning so I have little idea how linuxcnc handles the tool orientation as set in 'R' and 'K' words. There is this document which also refers to tool orientation but I have really no idea if this is actually used in motion planning or only in the GUI.
linuxcnc.org/docs/html/lathe/lathe-user.html
I'd say it's certainly possible to recreate this using a python remap.
Note though that even Doosan suggest that it is more accurate to touch off the tool at the b-axis angle used in the operation.
G400 is different as it transforms the tool offset rather than the tool position.
I'm not very familiar with cnc turning so I have little idea how linuxcnc handles the tool orientation as set in 'R' and 'K' words. There is this document which also refers to tool orientation but I have really no idea if this is actually used in motion planning or only in the GUI.
linuxcnc.org/docs/html/lathe/lathe-user.html
I'd say it's certainly possible to recreate this using a python remap.
Note though that even Doosan suggest that it is more accurate to touch off the tool at the b-axis angle used in the operation.
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05 May 2025 13:09 #327756
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Hello,
so after some digging around i found the Doosan G Code explanation sheet. I uploaded it into my GitHub so everybody can access it. It was a pain in the **** to get it.
github.com/jochenr91/Integrex
It explains every G-code the machine accepts. Including G400 starting on Page 155 (Page 157 with example pictures).
Also interessting: The Doosan Machine exepts G68:
Three-dimensional coordinate conversion without B-axis rotating (G68.1/G69.1)
Three-dimensional coordinate conversion with B-axis rotating (G368/G369)
The question is how to implement it into the PP or replace G400 in the PP. I get the benefits of using G400. But i don't need this functionality, at least to get things running. On the long run of course it would be quite nice, cause this is one of the huge benefits of a mill turn. Since this G code works with the tool offsets automatically it should be used by the motion planner?!
But yes the touch off should be at B0.
so after some digging around i found the Doosan G Code explanation sheet. I uploaded it into my GitHub so everybody can access it. It was a pain in the **** to get it.
github.com/jochenr91/Integrex
It explains every G-code the machine accepts. Including G400 starting on Page 155 (Page 157 with example pictures).
Also interessting: The Doosan Machine exepts G68:
Three-dimensional coordinate conversion without B-axis rotating (G68.1/G69.1)
Three-dimensional coordinate conversion with B-axis rotating (G368/G369)
The question is how to implement it into the PP or replace G400 in the PP. I get the benefits of using G400. But i don't need this functionality, at least to get things running. On the long run of course it would be quite nice, cause this is one of the huge benefits of a mill turn. Since this G code works with the tool offsets automatically it should be used by the motion planner?!
But yes the touch off should be at B0.
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06 May 2025 10:39 #327840
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I thought a little bit about it and came to the conclusion, that most of the functionality of the Millturn would be covered with the following G-codes:
G68.1/G69.1
G368/G369
G400
G490 (I think, I could do that myself by replacing the G code with a custom M code in the PP)
Do you think you could support me on more time
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Kind regards,
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G68.1/G69.1
G368/G369
G400
G490 (I think, I could do that myself by replacing the G code with a custom M code in the PP)
Do you think you could support me on more time
Kind regards,
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06 May 2025 12:19 #327846
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I'm still working on it.
Having the tool pointing in the x direction instead of the z direction in the home position has turned out to be a bit more of a headache as Linuxcnc applies the tool offsets internally.
TCP with xyz tool offset and tool spindle orientation is done. The kinematic for Tilted work plane also works but the transformation of the work offset still needs some work.
Let me figure this out first and I'll post a new sim config so you can have a look at it. Then we can have a look at customizing the gcodes for your specific needs.
Having the tool pointing in the x direction instead of the z direction in the home position has turned out to be a bit more of a headache as Linuxcnc applies the tool offsets internally.
TCP with xyz tool offset and tool spindle orientation is done. The kinematic for Tilted work plane also works but the transformation of the work offset still needs some work.
Let me figure this out first and I'll post a new sim config so you can have a look at it. Then we can have a look at customizing the gcodes for your specific needs.
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Could you export the example part from your post here as an stl file and post it here?
forum.linuxcnc.org/10-advanced-configura...hine?start=40#327741
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I exported it in STL and OBJ. I had problems getting Fusion STL export into vismach. OBJ worked flawless. Thank you!
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there are two versions of STL files, ASCII and Binary, you have a binary file and vismach can only read the ASCII format
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